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I could never have imagined this situation

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RamblingRose47 Wed 04-Sept-19 00:39:52

It’s difficult to know where to start. I could never have imagined this situation.
I am in my early 70s and my husband is a few years younger. We retired to France 6 years ago. DH now has some heart problems and for the last 9 months has been treated back in the UK on the NHS. He has refused to use the french health system although we are now registered with it as french residents and it has an excellent reputation. He refuses to let me go with him to any of his appointments. He had said when his current issues are resolved he will get any future medical help in France.
But now it seems things might be more serious and he now says he will continue with the NHS to the end if it comes to that. He says he doesn’t want me or anyone in the family to look after him.. He already spends a lot of the time in the UK waiting between appointments as it is impractical for him to keep coming back for a few days in between.
This is on top of the last 2 or more years where he spent months on end back in the UK to be near his mother who was in a home with dementia until she died.
Of course, all this has been, and is, awful for him but he has been determined to do it and do it on his own terms.
We have a lovely home and I now have good friends in France but I’ve said I’d move back to the UK , even rent somewhere (although I don’t know how we could afford it) but he says he doesn’t want to move back to the UK.
I have become so anxious and unhappy. We have lived this separated life now for more than 3 years
Now he could have a stroke, a heart attack or collapse and he would be in another country. Or I could be ill or have an accident while he’s away and be on my own.
I simply do not know what to do.
Has anyone else been in this position? I would be grateful for any insights or advice.

nanou Fri 06-Sept-19 13:24:30

Your situation is not easy and I would say it's a shame he is not using the French medical system, a) a brilliant system b) physically nearer c) easier for your couple. If you are satisfied there is nothing untoward, I would simply adapt and accept the situation and let him be. As some of us nowadays remain married for many years, it is possible that one of the partners sometimes needs a bit more space and freedom without going separate ways. It might just be the case.

MawB Fri 06-Sept-19 13:32:24

he is preparing you to live on your own when he is gone. He has just gone through a harrowing experience with his mother being there for her as she died before his eyes as the person goes along time before they actually die with dementia

Why be so melodramatic? klerg000
Died before his eyes - I considered myself to be privileged to have been with my father throughout his final hours and as he passed away and in the same way, although heartbroken, to be with my darling DH as he slipped away.
So please reconsider your melodramatic turn of phrase which implies some tragic drama. hmm
It really doesn’t wash as either an excuse or a reason.

Urmstongran Fri 06-Sept-19 13:49:25

This bit wouldn’t wash with me RamblingRose He says he doesn’t speak french well enough and with the NHS doctors he can discuss issues in detail.

He could pay in France to take an interpreter with him to appointments - usual cost approx €15 per hour.

Cheaper by far than flights ‘home’.

That said, he’s been gone 3 years....

I think it’s over. Have you asked him directly?

Alexa Sat 07-Sept-19 11:54:30

"he is preparing you to live on your own when he is gone. He has just gone through a harrowing experience with his mother being there for her as she died before his eyes as the person goes along time before they actually die with dementia" MawB quoted kergloo.

It is a great pity when a marriage is in trouble for whatever reason, divorce, estrangement, or death. If a man does prepare his wife for a loss of whatever sort I think this is a sign of a good man.

notanan2 Sat 07-Sept-19 12:13:08

Essentially he is behaving like he is single. Like you are a friend not his life partner.

We can speculate as to whether he is doing so to protect you thinking its a kindness, or doing it to hide things from you and keep you at arms length.

But whichever it is, its not how you act in a marraige!

sodapop Sat 07-Sept-19 13:34:25

Yes I agree notanan2

flaxwoven Sat 07-Sept-19 14:05:16

I was a medical secretary and some patients do not want close relatives to know their medical details, and we had to be very careful what we said and check their notes etc. and also never give results over the phone because you couldn't be sure who you were talking to. Early on in the job I got trouble for telling a man's wife I was ringing from xxxx department and he had never told her about his appointment or his condition. My advice to this worried lady is that the only way forward is to find the right time to have a real heart to heart talk, face to face, in a caring and loving way. Often men want to shy away from discussing personal matters, they'd rather talk about football, but I believe talking is the only answer, not crying, not getting angry, not accusing, just getting gently to the heart of the matter.

Tedber Sun 08-Sept-19 20:21:18

Agree flaxwoven but you are only taking a small part of this whole scenario. This man has been living in UK for 3 years for various reasons.

I have absolutely no wish to hurt the OP and I really don't think others do either but he seems to have one excuse after another to remain in UK WITHOUT his wife!

Whichever way you look at this - does it really add up to showing consideration for ramblingrose?

Have you made any progress ramblingrose? Have you contacted your in-laws in UK to say you are visiting?

Lumarei Sun 08-Sept-19 20:47:10

I can’t see anything odd about your DH’s behaviour. My DH would be/do exactly the same. He does things on his terms. Due to the nature of my husband’s work (only recently retired) I spent half my life on my own and I am used to it and even like it. I have to get used to him being always around and find it not easy. So I would find your situation difficult especially with friends nearby.

Lumarei Sun 08-Sept-19 20:58:04

Sorry, I wouldn’t find it difficult.

Tedber Sun 08-Sept-19 21:43:51

No Lumrei except the OP says she is totally unhappy and anxious about it all. Replies are based on this.

Eloethan Mon 09-Sept-19 14:40:29

Lumarei I wouldn't think your reaction to such a situation - i.e. that there is nothing "odd" about it - is not a common one.

If you have a spouse or a partner, I think it is reasonable to expect to share a fair amount of your time with them - or at least for them not to absent themselves for the best part of 3 years- even in the difficult circumstances described.

You say your partner "does things on his own terms". That sounds pretty selfish to me if it means he goes his own way without considering the feelings of those close to him. You may well be able to deal with that - and perhaps it suits you too. But it doesn't suit the OP.