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Like spending time with AC on my own without 2nd DH

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HettyMaud Thu 26-Sept-19 20:52:20

DS (aged 41) has come home for a few days. DH (my 2nd) doesn't seem to understand I'd like to spend time with him on my own. So the 3 of us are sitting here - DH and DS both on phones and now I'm typing this. Fairly happy with DH generally but feel he doesn't understand how I want to spend time with my children ON MY OWN. He's always around and I feel it spoils my relationships with my AC. Really difficult. Sometimes feel I'd like to write a note and just disappear, particularly as have elderly Mother also living with us. Just feeling grumpy and sometimes feel I'd like to live on my own but, in my 70s, a bit late to change things now I guess. Feel I've made my bed and must lie on it. Anybody else on 2nd marriages feel it's not the same when with their AC when husbands are around?

stella1949 Thu 26-Sept-19 21:43:07

Yes, I know what you mean. My son and my 2nd husband are just not "on the same page" about anything , so we rarely spend time with my son at all. I used to invite DS over for a meal sometimes, but the atmosphere, although polite, was never relaxed so those dinners have been cancelled.

I guess I'm lucky that , because I take my son's children to and from school every day, I do see my son on his own at his house and we have a chat.

Could you ask your son if he'd like to go out for a coffee or lunch in a cafe , just the two of you ? Or would your DH expect to come along too ? I know it's difficult when your husband isn't your children's father. You feel you have to be loyal to your DH but the deep emotional ties are with your children. And having your mother there too - you really are stuck !

I hope things get better OP. Sorry I'm no help .

HettyMaud Thu 26-Sept-19 21:49:54

Thank you for such a kind reply Stella 1949. I am going to ask my son if he would like a coffee in town tomorrow. Very difficult with families and 2nd marriages isn't it. I often feel very torn.

Summerlove Thu 26-Sept-19 22:00:43

Could you tell your husband you want time alone?

It seems extremely unfair of you to expect him to get out of his house without speaking about it, but is it possible you and your son could go out for a meal?

annep1 Fri 27-Sept-19 02:48:30

I have the opposite problem. I often include my husband in visits to AC. The grandchildren love him. My husband on the other hand always wants to see his AC alone. Then they come at Christmas and I'm supposed to know how to chat to them. I have asked him How can I when they are strangers to me? So I think it's nice that your husband wants to be included but it's still nice to have time alone too. It's easily arranged.
I too miss living alone sometimes. Being married can be claustrophobic, especially if you lived alone for a few years before marrying. Perhaps you are together too much.

Liz46 Fri 27-Sept-19 06:30:22

My daughter is coming to visit this evening and staying overnight. My (second) husband does not like Chinese food so I am taking the opportunity to go out with my daughter. He can have a peaceful evening on his own. He will be happy with that.

sodapop Fri 27-Sept-19 08:44:42

I agree Summerlove don't see why your husband should leave his home HettyMaud
If things are a bit strained then a meal or drink somewhere else should give you one to one time.

FarNorth Fri 27-Sept-19 08:54:05

Have you mentioned this to DH?
Suggested how you would like things to go.
You can't expect DH to stay in the bedroom while DS is visiting so what would you like to happen?

Grannyknot Fri 27-Sept-19 09:27:33

Hi Hetty I don't think wanting to spend time alone with one's adult children is only an issue in step-families, I think it can happen in born-of families too. I really like spending time alone with my AC and that includes not always having their spouses around!

So I grab opportunities e.g. a walk to the local caf with my son when he is sent to buy more milk/bread/ice cream, or tagging along when my son takes my grandson to the park so we can chat whilst the little one plays, or picking my daughter up for a coffee, and we leave her husband at home.

Sometimes our children will be here and my OH will be watching sport on TV and rather than having the guests lapse into fiddling on their phones, I suggest a walk or decamp to the kitchen for a chat. No one needs to be banished to their room!

I'm a big believer in letting people "do their own thing" and "going with the flow" and I make sure everyone in my family knows that smile so there are few expectations to conform to rigid plans when we have visitors. Otherwise, it's just too damn hard!

My point is, it can be done! smile

NannaToon Fri 27-Sept-19 10:41:44

Hi my adult son and I meet about every six weeks for a meal to catch up even though I see him every week briefly when I’m at his house looking after grandson no 2 for the day while parents work. It works well for us. My partner understands my need to see him alone and my sons wife is ok with it too.

Bbbface Fri 27-Sept-19 11:04:20

Talk to your husband?
And why the need to all sit there on your phones when the three of you are together?
Do pleasant stuff as a three
And then do stuff just work your son having had a kind conversation with your DH

Callycally Fri 27-Sept-19 11:08:33

I’m afraid my husband is the same. I often think it boils down to ‘retired man syndrome’ - whereby they have very few interests and hobbies and need their wives to be their companion all the time. So it follows that they feel as though they are missing out and do not know how to fill the time if you want to see children alone. I do not have any tips on how to surmount this but I know it can cause problems.

grandtanteJE65 Fri 27-Sept-19 11:11:39

Have you tried mentioning this matter to your husband? I'm not clear about that reading your post.

When our son comes for a visit, I sometimes want to discuss things with him without my husband present, so either my son and I go for a walk, go shopping together, or simply say to DH that we have matters to discuss alone.

Our son and his father do the same when they want to be sans moi. No problem.

I don't think it really matters whether they are the children of both partners in the marriage or not, after all when they were small you didn't always do everything as the whole family`, did you?

Bald1 Fri 27-Sept-19 11:12:52

There's always the possibility that your DH feels he has to be around when your AS visits so as not to appear rude by going out - he may even prefer to go out, if you suggest he might like to nip down the pub. Or you could see your AS alone in a cafe

jaylucy Fri 27-Sept-19 11:33:00

I'd guess your DH is trying in his own way to also get to know your son while he is there.
I don't understand why it is, that many women post on here, complaining about their DH and seeming to expect the poor men to be mind readers! Please talk to them and be honest with them please!
Nothing wrong with wanting to spend time with son, but like others, go out for a meal or lunch or something to spend time with him and why do you say "Fairly happy with DH generally" as if he is something that you bought from a supermarket and are reviewing?

Jillybird Fri 27-Sept-19 11:38:59

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

absthame Fri 27-Sept-19 11:44:11

As a married male I do not get why you married your current husband if you want him to not be fully integrated into your family.

I understand you wanting to have some limited mum son time, but your words imply that when your son is around that you don't want your husband there at all. Maybe you need to reassess what you do want.

Xrgran Fri 27-Sept-19 11:47:30

Why can’t you chose an activity your husband won’t be interested in and then do with the children?

Or go to a place where you know he won’t like the food.

If you are feeling you want to be alone more why not tell him? We all need our own space including husbands who also need to develop other interests than just family.

I can’t understand why a couple would even want to spend all the time together. We both work from home and that’s bad enough but I do get away for several weeks at a time.

Tigertooth Fri 27-Sept-19 11:58:30

Book some theatre/cinema tix and a meal and tell DH you want some 1to1 time with DS.
Just say it and do it - if he sulks -he sulks, he’ll get over it!

BusterTank Fri 27-Sept-19 12:07:03

Arrange to do something with your son that your husband really doesn't like , then he wouldn't go along . Then it would his choice and you not isolating him .

Greengage Fri 27-Sept-19 12:14:30

Why don't people talk more openly together? A few weeks ago I had the chance to spend an evening with my two AC without their partners. It had been ages since we last did this, and the three of us loved it and said we must do it again sometime. Neither of their partners were the slightest bit put out by this, and I took the trouble to thank them for 'the loan' of their other halves. I have also recently had a couple of nights away with my daughter and her baby while her husband worked and looked after the older child (who attends nursery some days). Then a week or so later I had a one-on-one with my son when we had a meal out together.
In view of what I have read above, I think I may arrange a meal out with just my son-in-law, and then another with my son's partner.
We love being all together when we can, but one-on-one is also a lovely thing.
I am widowed but have a man in my life and he has a family also. Sometimes we are involved in each other's family, and sometimes we are not. We all talk openly so there are never any underlying problems.

Purplepoppies Fri 27-Sept-19 13:22:42

I'd really love some time alone with my mum without step father. I'm currently in staying with them for a short break. He never goes out and mum isn't well enough to. The only time alone we have is first thing in the morning before he gets up....

newnanny Fri 27-Sept-19 13:27:02

2 of my ac live with me and 2nd dh. We all get on well together because both dc are at work all day as is dh. 1 dc works shifts and so I treat him to a late lunch out when he works on an early shift and an early lunch when he is working a late shift. The only time I get to see my older son alone is if he happens to have a days holiday and then we go out for lunch. I go out with dh twice each week for dinner so he gets my undivided attention then. My dh goes to the cinema to watch a film with both my dc about once a month. They do generally get on very well and my dh has helped me to bring up younger dc since he was 8 years old so he regards him as his 2nd Dad. I would suggest you arrange to meet your dc for a meal. I take younger son to carvery because that is what he likes.

newnanny Fri 27-Sept-19 13:28:55

Just re read my post and realised it sounds as if I take younger son out every day for lunch this is not the case just once each week.

Ilovecheese Fri 27-Sept-19 14:55:41

You really need to talk to your husband. I must admit that I don't really understand why you don't want your husband there while you talk to your son, but there must be something you or your son don't feel happy talking about in front of your husband. If you and your son go out together on your own, are you expecting your husband to entertain or look after your elderly mother?

Just talk to your husband, tell him what you want to do, I am sure you can do this without hurting his feelings too much.