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This is freaking me out - relative claiming she has second sight

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B9exchange Mon 08-Feb-21 14:20:51

To try and explain, I found a distant relative in the USA and went over to visit her a few years ago. She gave us a lovely time, all seemed fine, and we continued to correspond.

She fell for a rather unsuitable truck driver who was on drugs, and eventually when she found out she had the sense to kick him out. He was found dead in his truck having a couple of days later, taken an overdose. This was about three years ago. Ever since that time she has been convinced that he is speaking to her, and has he has become an angel in her eyes. She was due to come and stay with us and we planned we would show her the sights last October, obviously cancelled.

In an email last Autumn, she wrote that this now deceased chap was telling her that in January 2021 she would meet a new lifetime partner and gave the same Christian name as himself. He also told her that Donald Trump would be assassinated in February at his Mar a Lago golf club.

This week I had another email telling me that her life partner had turned up in January as exactly as her late boyfriend had predicted, and that the new partner had an enormous house with 5 bathrooms and its own private cinema, which she would be moving into next month.

That has freaked me out, wondering if her prediction about Trump will also come true. I can't stand the man, but I wouldn't wish anyone dead, and if it happened as she said, I would feel very uncomfortable with her coming to see us later this year (also predicted, apparently!)

I don't know how to reply to her latest email, obviously I need to wish her new relationship well, but the thought of having a medium in my house later this year is making me very uncomfortable, I was always brought up to have nothing at all to do with the occult. It may be that CV-19 will delay things, but I can't put her off for ever! What would your reaction be?

Aggy21 Tue 09-Feb-21 11:25:19

Talking of mediums, I’m now obsessed by Long Island Medium on tv. The things she knows about the deceased and the relatives left behind are uncanny. Has anyone been told things by a medium that they couldn’t possibly have found out beforehand? I know a lot of you think it’s all rubbish!

rowanflower0 Tue 09-Feb-21 11:29:48

Don't be shocked if the Donald Trump thing comes true - a lot of Americans have lost loved ones to covid, that should not have died, and they all carry guns! I am just surprised that no-one has assassinated him before!

ElaineRI55 Tue 09-Feb-21 11:33:28

Don't be pressurised into anything you're not comfortable with. Why don't you tell her that you've decided not to make any plans to visit anywhere any distance from home or to have anyone from any distance away visit you throughout 2021 and you will see how you feel in 2022. It's not unreasonable to say you're not having visitors from abroad anyway in case they get stuck here for months if a new Covid variant necessitates further lockdown. That gives you a chance to see how she's coping, how things develop with her new boyfriend and what sort of person he is. I know the views I'm about to express will probably not be held by all but will be more common than folk might think . I do happen to believe that it is possible to receive predictions or guidance about the future, but that it is usually through either God's spirit or an unhealthy spirit. It does sound as though your relative's guilt/grief left her vulnerable either to someone who just makes things up for profit or to a real but unhealthy influence. Where God speaks into someone's life or circumstances it brings hope, peace and reassurance even if it relates to a difficult situation. When the influence is from an unhealthy source it may bring distress, obsession, a disconnect from real life, and so on. I hope that she finds happiness with her boyfriend and you have a nice visit from her once you're comfortable with that. You can ask her not to share her predictions when she visits if she still feels her ex boyfriend is speaking to her. Whatever he was like, I certainly don't think he is her guardian angel!

sandelf Tue 09-Feb-21 11:34:30

Go with your gut feeling. If she'd like to visit the UK and meet up at some stage that is a different thing. But a stranger to stay under your own roof, that you have these doubts about...??

Aepgirl Tue 09-Feb-21 11:34:58

I’d cut myself off from her immediately.

BusterTank Tue 09-Feb-21 11:38:29

I would say o what a coincidence and not embellish on it anymore . Just speak to her about the weather and general chit chat . If she does have the gift of speaking to do the dead , it would make no difference having her in your home . Just tell her politely you have no interest in this subject and would rather not talk about . At the end of the day she is the same person.

4allweknow Tue 09-Feb-21 11:39:31

You have seen photos of the house, have you seen photos of the guy and are these taken in the new house with her too? Seems just a bit strange for her to have had a relationship with a drug user and then someone who is so different. Can happen I know. Some Americans are really in to religion, some obsessively. Perhaps your relative is the same with her beliefs of future telling. Ask her why she thinks her ex is telling her all those things when she can do nothing about them. Has she informed the authorities about the Trump threat. Being an upstanding citizen and knowing her info to be accurate she surely will have. Think this person is unwell probably feeling guilt relating to her ex's death.

Tanjamaltija Tue 09-Feb-21 11:52:28

I can send you pictures the rooms of a villa halfway across the world... it won't mean I've been there. I think the guy's death affected her badly.

icanhandthemback Tue 09-Feb-21 12:04:42

It all sounds a bit of a mountain out of a molehill to me. Lots of people believe they have second sight and to me, it just means that they are trying to make themselves feel a bit special. I feel rather sorry for your relative. Like a lot of people, she is trying to make what has been projected for her, come true. That means if she has met a man who fulfils that projection, she will be blind to any warning signs that he relationship isn't right...just like she was to the last relationship.
Personally, I would say that she was welcome to come to stay but you don't feel comfortable to have a man to stay that she hasn't known for very long either. You can say that you feel rather uncomfortable about her newly found skills at communicating with her dead partner which doesn't feel healthy for her so perhaps she could avoid talking about that when she stays. If she takes offence, she obviously isn't going to be a good fit in your life so it will be better for you to know now.

Silverlady333 Tue 09-Feb-21 12:04:43

Mmmm I would be wondering if she had been participating in any of the drugs the late boyfriend had left behind?

Bridgeit Tue 09-Feb-21 12:09:27

Just don’t reply, you really don’t need to, I may sound a bit harsh ,but you need to protect & look after yourself. Best wishes

chazwin Tue 09-Feb-21 12:16:15

Poppyred

She’s not wasting any time is she?? ??. Sorry I don’t have any constructive advice.

No prediction has come true.
She dreamed up a "prediction" and chose a person to make it appear to come true.
The likelyhood that someone want to kill Trump is high.
I seriously doubt that would come to pass.
The woman is obviously bonkers and I would advice you to break off all contact.
Life is too short to spend time with dangerous people.

chazwin Tue 09-Feb-21 12:17:35

B9exchange

To try and explain, I found a distant relative in the USA and went over to visit her a few years ago. She gave us a lovely time, all seemed fine, and we continued to correspond.

She fell for a rather unsuitable truck driver who was on drugs, and eventually when she found out she had the sense to kick him out. He was found dead in his truck having a couple of days later, taken an overdose. This was about three years ago. Ever since that time she has been convinced that he is speaking to her, and has he has become an angel in her eyes. She was due to come and stay with us and we planned we would show her the sights last October, obviously cancelled.

In an email last Autumn, she wrote that this now deceased chap was telling her that in January 2021 she would meet a new lifetime partner and gave the same Christian name as himself. He also told her that Donald Trump would be assassinated in February at his Mar a Lago golf club.

This week I had another email telling me that her life partner had turned up in January as exactly as her late boyfriend had predicted, and that the new partner had an enormous house with 5 bathrooms and its own private cinema, which she would be moving into next month.

That has freaked me out, wondering if her prediction about Trump will also come true. I can't stand the man, but I wouldn't wish anyone dead, and if it happened as she said, I would feel very uncomfortable with her coming to see us later this year (also predicted, apparently!)

I don't know how to reply to her latest email, obviously I need to wish her new relationship well, but the thought of having a medium in my house later this year is making me very uncomfortable, I was always brought up to have nothing at all to do with the occult. It may be that CV-19 will delay things, but I can't put her off for ever! What would your reaction be?

No prediction has come true.
NONE
She dreamed up a "prediction" and chose a person to make it appear to come true.
The likelyhood that someone want to kill Trump is high.
I seriously doubt that would come to pass.
The woman is obviously bonkers and I would advice you to break off all contact.
Life is too short to spend time with dangerous people.

Nanananana1 Tue 09-Feb-21 12:21:11

What complete nonsense! Of course people can't predict the future. We can all take a wild guess of course and many of us might be right but many more won't be. Your friend is in need of some counselling and support for her behaviour as she is obviously not coping well with the real world. Delusional maybe? It is an actual mental health issue. Step well back and say you think she needs help, the more people who 'believe' will only encourage her strangeness
As an aside I used to go to a group course (work related) where a woman claimed to be a 'white witch'. Of course everyone was fascinated but it only fuelled her oddness. It made her feel special, one-of-a-kind and the centre of attention. If that was her intention it worked well for her but many would not go along with the charade and she became quite belligerent!

moorlikeit Tue 09-Feb-21 12:36:46

I don't for one minute believe that Trump will be assassinated. The reason? The people most likely to assassinate anyone in the US are Trump supporters!

grandtanteJE65 Tue 09-Feb-21 12:42:32

Write back and congratulate her on the new relationship.

If or when travel becomes possible again and you feel you are bound to have her to stay, make it clear in your invitation that she is welcome for x number of days, so she doesn't stay indefinitely.

Before she comes, you could say that you would prefer her not to tell you of any premonitions that she may have, as the occult makes you uncomfortable. If she does start talking about these things, change the subject, reminding her that you prefer not to discuss these matters.

Anyone, realising how unpopular Trump has made himself, could go around saying he will be assassinated without it necessarily following that he will die in that manner. Similar predictions have been made about other unpopular public figures who either like Hitler killed themselves, or died of natural causes like Stalin.

buylocal Tue 09-Feb-21 13:18:45

Brilliant responses! grin

lovebeigecardigans1955 Tue 09-Feb-21 13:23:55

She may claim to have second sight but she seems to be lacking in common sense. I don't really know if I'd want to host her as I think it would make me feel uneasy.

Mollygo Tue 09-Feb-21 14:04:16

Covid gives you a good excuse not to have her visit you, now or in the future. She might believe what she’s saying. You don’t have to give credit to it.
I wouldn’t respond to any of her news unless you want to send congratulations -just continue with normal chat, if you want to keep in touch.

timetogo2016 Tue 09-Feb-21 14:28:57

Yes Aggy21 .
Myself and dil went to see John Edward the American psychic medium a few years ago now,and what he told me and dil blew us away ie; i was going to move house as he sees boxes,a said iv`e just done that and he said ,well your doing it again in the next 12 months.
I met my oh a little while later and moved in with him 9 months later.
He tolm me i had my late fathers glasses and in the case you will find an American coin, i did.
Lots of other things too,that were accurate.
Also he told dil how her df commited suicide,her brother played a brass instrument,that she is due to get married and other things too,a couple of things we weren`t sure about but wrote them down.
The name begining with the letter M,we didn`t have a clue until 5 months later my dil gave birth to a boy and they called him Michael.
I wo`nt go on any longer but there were loads of info especially how my parents died and what illnesses they had.

We never felt so happy,

nannypiano Tue 09-Feb-21 14:57:25

I think I would take it with a pinch of salt and change the subject if she starts her predictions when she visits.
I have to say that some of the quick witted comments on here have me in stitches Please keep them coming.

Tweedle24 Tue 09-Feb-21 15:06:54

Poor woman is obviously grieving for the one who died and is feeling guilty that she could not prevent his death or, maybe, even believes she drove him to it.

I can’t help wondering if the second one is a con artist. She is clearly vulnerable. Does he really own this great big house or is he leading her on? If he can afford that sort of house, he can afford an hotel, if and when they come to the U.K. All the OP needs to say is that she is uncomfortable having a strange man staying in her house and, while happy to meet up with them, would prefer that they stay in an hotel.

BlueBelle Tue 09-Feb-21 15:11:02

We can all make things fit if we want to timetogo mediums are clever and place little clues that you have no ideas they are placing and read things you don’t realise you are giving away then the person who has greased their palm will start seeing little things that could fit in and it becomes a self fulling prophecy
I m glad it made you happy but it’s really is all made to fit

Maddy68 Tue 09-Feb-21 15:24:42

I live in America. I am concerned by what you wrote in your post. There is an unbelievable amount of Christian cultism going on here around "Qanon" and Trump. These people are crazy! There conspiracy theories include believing alien lizard people appearing as human are walking among us doing terrible things. There are people who have killed their own family members claiming they were possessed by demons or really "lizard people." Do your research and beware. These conspiracy believers keep reconstructing their "theories" when things don't turn out the way they think they are going to because that is part of their delusional thinking. The reports here said that they thought Trump was going to take over the White House at the certification on Jan. 6. When that didn't happen, they pushed it back to March 4 (he is going to return to the White House in March). Now if it doesn't happen, maybe they are predicting he is going to get assassinated is my guess. You see what I am saying? They are going to roll reality into their delusions no matter what. Unfortunately, there seem to be a lot of otherwise seemingly average people who have gotten pulled into this nonsense. Unfortunately, as we saw on Jan. 6 at the Capital, they seem prone to violence in the name of their cause. Watch out!

Greciangirl Tue 09-Feb-21 15:26:36

Do you really want a double dose of her and the boyfriend spouting mumbo jumbo, Espee?