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I just don’t know what to do.

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LibbyR Mon 20-Feb-23 11:00:36

My husband is 8 years younger than me. We’ve been together for 25 years. I have grown up children from my first marriage. He made it perfectly clear that he didn’t want children when we met and that suited me as I didn’t want anymore. Due to this fact we have always kept our finances very separate, just having a joint account that we each pay an amount into to cover household expenses. We have a beautiful home which due to us both having full time jobs, we have contributed to equally. We now have no mortgage and our house is my husbands pride and joy as he built it. When the children were at home I paid in more than him to our living expenses but since they left home over 10 years ago we now pay the same but all other finances are separate. His family are very well off whereas I don’t have any family other than my children. I have always had a very stressful job and about 2 years ago I became quite unwell due mainly to work stress, with this as the main factor I looked into taking early retirement (aged 56). This meant losing quite a chunk of my pension however when I tried to discuss it with my husband he just said that I should do whatever I wanted to do, my finances were none of his concern and as long as I could ‘pay my way’ it was my decision. I’ll admit that for the last few years of my working life we grew apart, mainly due to the fact that I was working 50-60 hours every week, I was tired and unwell and made no effort in our relationship. He also didn’t support me when I was stressed and I felt resentful of this, he works in his family business and comes and goes as he pleases, hasn’t really known a day of stress in his life. I’ve put on a terrific amount of weight, sleep badly and feel miserable and unattractive. I’d hoped that removing the work stress would make me feel better however it’s been almost 2 years and our relationship has fallen apart. He has never been one to talk about his feelings and any kind of discussion I try to instigate gets immediately shut down either by him walking away or just refusing to engage.
For many years he has had an interest in vintage cars and travels around locally to meetings, weekend rallies etc. Several years ago we bought a caravan (paid exactly half each) so we could make a bit of a holiday of these meetings however most of the time he makes it clear that he wishes to go alone and I’ve only attended twice in the last couple of years. The last time was in August last year. At the event I became aware of a woman who was all over my husband, I was watching them giggling and chatting for several hours from my vantage point in the caravan. The feeling I had in my stomach was dreadful, I felt so upset as he basically ignored me for the whole day and spent his time with her right under my nose. When it was time to do the parade of cars, she jumped into the car with him and off they went. When he returned I said to him I thought I was going to go on the parade with him and he looked a bit sheepish but said that X was there and wanted to go so he didn’t like to say no! I promptly packed my bags and went home. He sent me one message saying what’s the matter, I replied with a very long message telling him how upset I’d felt watching him laughing and chatting with another woman when he can barely speak to me most of the time and he said he didn’t know what my problem was and they’re just friends. I confided in a friend about this and she said that a mutual friend who also attends these events had commented on how much time my husband and this woman spend together. When he returned after the weekend I tried to talk to him about it and he was very defensive and said that there was nothing going on between them and they were friends who had a common interest (this has always been his hobby but I have tried to get involved). I talked a bit about how I felt unloved and lonely in our marriage and he did little to reassure me apart from to say I had nothing to worry about. I asked if he’d consider some counselling sessions to help us to communicate better and get back on track but he flatly refused to consider it. Since then we have just limped along, living in the same house, sleeping in the same bed but there is no emotional connection between us, in fact most of the time I feel that I’m irritating him. I think if it wasn’t for the fact that he knows he’d have to split our assets with me he’d be quite happy to divorce however when I broached the subject he said it’s not what he wants.
This is my dilemma and I feel very ashamed to admit it but a couple of weeks ago when he was in the shower I had a look at his phone and there were lots of messages between him and this woman. It was all jokey chat, no I love you or kisses but lots of messages going back a couple of weeks. I think he’s probably been deleting the chats every so often in case I see his phone. They talked about the new vintage car that he’s going to buy, how she’ll be able to help him with it when they go to meetings etc. she referred to things that weren’t in the chat thread so I got the impression that he’d deleted previous messages or they’re communicating another way, possible via text message or telephone calls. I felt sick to the pit of my stomach and I don’t know what to do. If I confront him I’ll have to admit to looking at his phone and he will go ballistic and I’ll be the one in the wrong. I looked again last night and all chat with her had been deleted so my suspicion is that he has been in constant contact with her since last year behind my back and I just don’t know how to approach it with him without admitting I’ve been checking his phone. I’m afraid to be on my own but my jealousy is eating me up and I feel stupid and unloved and like I’ve wasted my life. sad

M0nica Mon 20-Feb-23 20:49:10

Go back to the spare bedroom. You have tried moving back into the marital bed, and it has made no difference to your relationship, so tell your husband that when you stay in that spare room.

It seems to me from your last few posts, that the dam has broken and you are seeing things for what they are. I had a friend who, at about your age, was in your situation and left after her husband developed a non-sexual but very close relationship with another woman. Yes, it was an upheaval. But she adjusted. She is in her mid 80s and been living happily alone for over 20 years. That is a long period of happiness, after a long marriage that was unhappy for many years.

Norah Mon 20-Feb-23 21:31:34

LibbyR Well done you!!!!

Chloejo Tue 21-Feb-23 10:11:02

I’ve sent u a private message. Get ur finances sorted don’t discuss anything with him. He has already left the marriage it’s only financially he doesn’t want to give u any money. He is enjoying his life and is neglecting you .
Don’t live a miserable life with him anymore.

Shinamae Tue 21-Feb-23 10:24:21

Chloejo

I’ve sent u a private message. Get ur finances sorted don’t discuss anything with him. He has already left the marriage it’s only financially he doesn’t want to give u any money. He is enjoying his life and is neglecting you .
Don’t live a miserable life with him anymore.

Absolutely this….

Serendipity22 Tue 21-Feb-23 11:32:31

I can only agree with a lot of what others have said and I am so very sorry that you are in this situation.... I didn't want to pass by and not say anything.

GrammyGrammy Tue 21-Feb-23 11:41:03

DO take photographs of the conversations he has with this woman. It is good evidence of adultery/ unreasonable behaviour. DO try to take copies of his bank statements and business financial statements/ contracts- everything you can and hand it to your solicitor. Trying to find out these things later is hard so gather what you can now and get your ducks all in a row quietly.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 21-Feb-23 12:01:34

We have no fault divorce now. You don’t need evidence of adultery or unreasonable behaviour.

Hetty58 Tue 21-Feb-23 12:20:40

It's never worth staying when a relationship is so obviously over. He's content in his own life - so start building your own and don't look back.

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 21-Feb-23 12:58:05

Well done Libby - believe me, life is so much better when you no longer live with someone who disrespects you and makes you unhappy. I know this from personal experience! Good luck : after the tough time of separating, the sun will rise on a new, richer life.

Gossamerbeynon1945 Tue 21-Feb-23 18:35:53

I am so very sorry, you find yourself in this situation. Leaving, takes a lot of courage, I know. I wish I had left when I found out that he'd been having an affair. I am now stuck because he had a stroke and is quite helpless! I hope you decide what to do soon, because hanging on is far more painfull.

GrammyGrammy Tue 21-Feb-23 18:48:50

Gossamerbeynon1945

I am so very sorry, you find yourself in this situation. Leaving, takes a lot of courage, I know. I wish I had left when I found out that he'd been having an affair. I am now stuck because he had a stroke and is quite helpless! I hope you decide what to do soon, because hanging on is far more painfull.

Are you stuck? Really? If he is helpless then a home with plenty of staff on day and night would be best for him. Tomorrow wouldn't be too soon.

GrammyGrammy Tue 21-Feb-23 18:51:05

Actually get legal advice first of course as protecting your finances is a priority- they will help you work out if its divorce and house sold or him into care first etc. Adulterous b**tard. You aren't stuck...

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 21-Feb-23 19:13:00

Ffs GrammyGrammy, there is no evidence of adultery (not that it’s relevant nowadays) and why on earth do you suggest he goes into care?

BlueBelle Tue 21-Feb-23 19:23:01

I think she is talking to Gossamer GSM about a husband having had a stroke !!!

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 21-Feb-23 19:57:40

My apologies then.

MerylStreep Tue 21-Feb-23 20:34:55

LibbyR
You must stop putting reasons forward for not leaving. You must change that mindset. You must make you the number one priority. Everything else must fit into your needs and wants at the present. Animals and babysitting can come later when your settled in your new home.

Gossamerbeynon1945 Tue 21-Feb-23 22:05:49

GrammyGrammy - if only! I someimes wish I was dead! I can't see very well because I have AMD. He can't speak at all. It was just taken for granted that I would be his carer!

NotSpaghetti Wed 22-Feb-23 08:02:42

Oh, Gossamer - please get some help for yourself no-one should have to feel like this.
Speak to the Samaritans if you are low:

www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/contact-samaritan/

...and your doctor and Adult Social Care in your area. Get some help please.

NotSpaghetti Wed 22-Feb-23 08:11:01

When I say to speak with your doctor I meant to tell them how much you are struggling so you can get some counselling and/or medication- but if you have AMD you could also check with your doctor if it's the sort of age-related macular degeneration that can be helped - or at least stopped progressing. I do know they can help one type (with injections) for example.

Thinking of you.
flowers

MerylStreep Wed 22-Feb-23 08:20:16

LibbyR
If he hadn’t made clear what he was before, he made it very clear when he told you as long as you can pay your way
That should have been a big red flag for you.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 22-Feb-23 08:37:24

Gossamer, can you tell Social Services and your GP that you can no longer cope and that they must remove your husband to a care home? You should not have to feel like this.

Franbern Wed 22-Feb-23 09:56:54

gossamer you must talk to Adult Social Services urgently. Do include in that converation you feeling of wishing to be dead and also tell them that you sometimes harbour feelings of wanting hubbie dead.

Whilst they think you are coping they will leave things as they are, you need to be quite emphatic that you are NOT coping. He probably would be better off in a care home and you definitely would be better off with him there.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 22-Feb-23 10:00:49

Well said Fran.

pascal30 Wed 22-Feb-23 11:12:29

Gossamer
Please speak to Social Services ASAP and don't feel at all guilty for doing so.. You definitely should not be carrying this burden alone especially with someone you don't want to be with... Also you could phone Age UK for advise.. I really wish you well...

Gossamerbeynon1945 Wed 22-Feb-23 13:54:25

Thank you so much for that good advice. I will contact them today.