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maturefloosy Tue 11-Apr-23 13:22:27

Advice please on how to cope with situations - my DH offers to help often and gets huffy / sulky and sometimes verbally snappy if I point out that the task he has done is not very good . For instance - peeling potatoes - he leaves bits of skin on old potatoes and black spots on new potatoes, he makes tea and burns the food , he washes glasses and doesn't use soap and hot water so they dry cloudy and marked. His gardening skills do not include seeing weeds - just lawnmowing. His idea of job done is the quickest and simplest way - without making sure it is done to the best it can be. I appreciate I am lucky that he wants to help but my Mum taught me that if a job was worth doing - it was worth doing well! - so although I turn a blind eye to lots of it - it does irritate me. If i point out a problem he confabulates a reply that often blames me for his action or says a silly reply - like I couldn't get my hand in the wine glass to wash and dry it because I would break it.! He is not a detail person and has little patience with things that take time but i now find I am thinking ahead to not let him do jobs - which is not good. ! Any advice on how to deal with this please? - without hurting his feelings and causing a silent few hours afterwards! smile

GagaJo Tue 11-Apr-23 13:26:42

I would suggest it's deliberate aka waponised incompetence. The way individuals are able to appear to be contributing but actually don't.

It's often a gendered thing, but in my case, it's my DD who uses it.

tanith Tue 11-Apr-23 13:46:31

If you want a peaceful life I’d just let him carry on as he is. It’s not the end of the world if a jobs not perfectly done. I know it’s frustrating as I used to tidy up after jobs DH had done but if he were still with me I’d just suck it up to have him back.

Hithere Tue 11-Apr-23 13:49:45

It could be that he may improve the more he does it also

Your husband does offer help - in a positive way "I want to help" or negative "leave me alone as I don't want to help but I pretend to"?

"Doing it well " is a dangerous term as it may apply to your standards, which are different from anybody else's

Who says whose standards apply? That's a minefield

Top of my head, I can see two things happening here
1. It is learned helplessness and he does nothing from now on - would you be ok with it?
2. He stops asking as he tries his best but he feels it is not good enough for you - that is a bad feeling to hold

What would happen if you are unable to do house chores and he is in charge?

This is a pick your battles situation, I think

maturefloosy Tue 11-Apr-23 14:32:26

I think you are right Hithere - pick my battles and only mention the very important ones - I think I have been doing that already. I change the bed when he is walking the dog as it takes hours with him helping - fumbling to get it on the right way up - usually upside down and button up out of line so I undo them all and start again . He always says on return - I would have done that for you! - I just smile . He does, however make a very good G and T - so not all bad! smile

pascal30 Tue 11-Apr-23 15:01:21

he probably finds it just as difficult living with a perfectionist..Does it really matter? If youlive quite comfortably together then you are blessed.. Just enjoy him..

Cheeseplantmad Tue 11-Apr-23 15:18:35

My late partner was a perfectionist in just about everything , whereas suppose I’m more like your DH . My late partner would often criticise me , like when I cook a meal he would tell me off because he would say I'm a messy cook ! His criticism would hurt me a lot because I were only trying to help and do my best . We are all different , we all do things differently , so I would say to relax and just let it go over your head rather than cause bad feelings , you are so lucky to have such a helpful husband as many are not , also it’s very hard being on your own having to do everything yourself .

maturefloosy Tue 11-Apr-23 16:01:36

cheeseplantmad I lived alone for 18 years before I met DH so I am sure I am just set in my way of doing things - |I am not a perfectionist by any means - and I do know how lucky I am to have someone to live with after all those years alone - - - - so - It seems I just have to get used to someone else's levels of ok - not feel irritated and learn to accept them most of the time . . . and only mention it when it matters - like burning the food!grin

Marydoll Tue 11-Apr-23 16:09:11

My husband is not a great cook, nor does he do things to the high standards, I would like. However, he is trying his best to support me, because ill health means I can no longer do the heavier tasks.
I am thankful that he cares enough about me to do that. I just bite my tongue, most of the time. for I wouldn't want to hurt him.

When we were first married, I did everything, including laying out his clothes.
He was the eldest of eight children and his mother wouldn't allow him to lift a finger. He soon learned!

As others have said, pick your battles.

Katyj Tue 11-Apr-23 16:31:42

Oh maturefloosy I have this problem. We’re both retired now and DH likes to help. Exactly the same problem as you he only does half a job where as I am a perfectionist. When he first started helping, he was terrible ! We had many a row about the tide mark still on the bath, the fingerprints still on the windows etc etc.
But I have to say he is a lot better now. Because I’ve given him specific jobs, he does the bathrooms, the vacuuming, the car and garden he seems to have perfected them. He’s still not as good as me but it’ll do.

ParlorGames Tue 11-Apr-23 16:37:10

I have a similar problem in so far as my OH is very slow when prepping vegetables and not great at washing up but, in the great scheme of things I just let it go.........he offers to help which is far more than my bone idle ex ever did and I have now decided to not sweat the small stuff - as long as neither of us gets food poisoning what does it matter. None of us are perfect, and I know I have faults too; just be kind to one another and turn a blind eye.

Allsorts Tue 11-Apr-23 16:43:43

Start giving him gold stars if he does well.

Hermother Tue 11-Apr-23 17:04:49

My D H has used the same tactic for 30 years. He does a job, always with bad grace, and then makes an absolute hash of it. Washing dishes but leaving the backs of plates smeared with food, cleaning the shower but leaving the shower gel bottle dripping gel down the glass and tiles.... every job done, but done very badly. For a while I stopped asking him to do any household jobs because I ended up doing it all again anyway. But then a friend pointed out that I was playing into his hands and he was using passive aggression to get what he wanted i.e to be left alone and not be bothered to share the responsibility for running our home. She was right. So I hired a cleaner to come every week for 3 hours! He doesn't like that either and says we can't afford it but I refuse to shoulder all the responsibility of cleaning the home so, he has to either suck it up, or pitch in and do the jobs properly. So far he's sucking it up! grin

maturefloosy Tue 11-Apr-23 17:11:26

Allsorts - that sounds like a good idea - make it into a joke situation - maybe that would stop him getting offended and bitey.!
A sticker chart on the wall - - sure to induce a row! shock
I guess i will just have to learn to live with it - - and ignore . . unless very important! Is this a main difference between men and women that I missed living alone for years then?

maturefloosy Tue 11-Apr-23 17:13:24

hermother - oh thats a brilliant idea! - win win all round! smile

Cabbie21 Tue 11-Apr-23 17:23:45

I think we have all got it wrong by reaching a Situation where our partners are expecting or expected to Help. Running a home ought to be a shared task, surely?
Probably we ladies have taken on more than our fair share for a variety of reasons, some good, some less so, but when we are both retired it is time to reassess. DH and I tend to each do what we are good at, and try to accept the other’s limitations, but I could have written the OP re potatoes and washing up. I know I am not going to get any offers of help with cleaning as he doesn’t seem to believe in it especially dusting. On the other hand I won’t do any gardening, or maybe a maximum of 20 minutes once a blue moon.
I also get quite uptight about the situation sometimes, but since DH’s heart attack I have to do almost everything, so any contributions DH can make are welcome.

VioletSky Tue 11-Apr-23 17:27:35

Play to his strengths and ask him to do things he does do well

Tasks like hoovering, you can't hoover and achieve nothing so take it in turns

Tasks he doesn't notice... "can you do some weeding please"

Give him choices "would you rather A or B?"

nadateturbe Tue 11-Apr-23 17:31:52

I would find some tasks that don't require perfection and allocate those to him.
But I don't think it matters too much about things like leaving a bit of skin on the potatoes. Clean glasses is different.
We don't always have the same way of doing jobs but unless it's really important we just agree, when I do it I do it my way, when you do it it's your way.

Ali23 Tue 11-Apr-23 17:37:51

Maybe ask him to do the things that he is fairly good at and take on the things that you have set standards for.

When each of us is cooking the other stays out of the kitchen. My DH has a tendency to rearrange my cooking and it can make me very cross so this is how we avoid it. When he lapses I remind him that he can only do it to me if I can do it to him. He would hate it so he stops!

Ali23 Tue 11-Apr-23 17:38:44

Take on means you take on… not very clear, sorry.

Granny23 Tue 11-Apr-23 17:47:04

Get a Dishwasher! Apparently, according to my relatives and friends who still have a male DH or partner, the filling or emptying of such machines can only be accomplished successfully by a male person i.e. it is Men's work. Strangely the operating of a clothes washing machine is Women's work which is quite beyond men's abilities. Similarly, a high tech, fancy lawnmower requires a male brain, while women can only be trusted with a simple one. Same goes for a fancy coffee maker, or robot vacuum.

It is Toys for the Boys!

maturefloosy Wed 12-Apr-23 12:19:23

Thankyou for all your very wise suggestions - - I will learn from them all. smile

Jess20 Wed 12-Apr-23 12:44:40

I can't see why he 'offers to help ' as it's as much his responsibility as yours if he lives there. Perhaps he's not as particular as you, which must be very annoying as a job worth doing is worth doing well, as you say. No idea what you can do if he always half-arses chores 😕

Jess20 Wed 12-Apr-23 12:45:29

Like the suggestion of getting a dishwasher!

Paperbackwriter Wed 12-Apr-23 12:56:07

Good grief, why are so many of you calling it 'helping'? Are all those chores yours by default? Surely as he shares the premises, he should share the work. The more he does, maybe the better he'll get. If I were you, I'd drop my standards a bit and find something more interesting to do than housework and cooking!