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Sielha Fri 21-Apr-23 22:17:04

Have posted about this before but the situation has deteriorated. Standard tale of a long marriage, drifting apart and unsure what to do. To flesh it out a little: married 35 years with no infidelities (well certainly not on my part and I have no suspicion about him). But lots of problems, as most people encounter, including major legal issues, health problems and family fallouts. He seems now to have totally retreated into the world of genealogy -in his study from morning to night with literally nothing else in his world. I encouraged him to apply for voluntary work, which he did but hasn’t bothered filling in the DBS form. It’s not just genealogy but a general retreat from the world and, despite many conversations where he has acknowledged the problems we have and promised to change, nothing has changed at all. I live my own life but am disappointed that we don’t do all the things I hoped for - just days out etc and freedom to do as we please. I am so angry with him and it has been building for years with threats of divorce from both of us. Thing is, it’s not an easy step to take and I don’t know if it’s a case of better the devil you know. At my wits end with this relationship now (I have omitted a lot of detail, about the legal stuff in particular but it’s bad!) Would appreciate any advice, comments of a constructive nature. I know my situation is not the worst, but it’s my situation and I’m feeling need of an outside opinion. Thank you for reading.

pandapatch Sat 22-Apr-23 14:45:30

Leaving a long marriage would be hard and you say "I live my own life", so just wondered how you think the situation would be improved if you left? Are you perhaps hoping to meet a "soulmate", someone with whom to do all those things you hoped to do. If so then obviously there is no guarantee that would happen.

I think the suggestion of an outing relating to his interest in geneology is a good one, a visit to an area that has cropped up in his research.

Does he completely shut you out, or is he happy to chat to you about his research?

I would feel hurt if my husband would never consider doing something with me that I wanted to do. A relationship should be a two way thing, sometimes I do something he wants to do, sometimes he does something I want to do and sometimes we do are own thing. I guess we are lucky in that there are lots of things we both like to do together

Sielha Thu 27-Apr-23 13:09:49

Thank you for all the advice, I have been reading through all of it very carefully. So useful to have insights from others, appreciate it🙏

biglouis Thu 27-Apr-23 13:20:41

Many people are introverts and retirement allows them to explore all the creative areas they weren't able to whilst trying to hold a working life together

This is so true! You think of the huge contribution you have made to the community throughout the years of your working life and come to the conclusion that "this time is for me". The problem comes when you are one of a twosome and not a single. Your DH is behaving as a single.

The posters who point out what a big step divorce is at your age have a point. You would be giving up financial security to strike out on your own. Single people subsidise every other group and thats something to be bourne in mind.

Can you not build a life for yourself without relying on DH? He had his all absorbing interest. You have the choice of learning to share some of it or building up some differenet friends and interests of your own now.

jeanie99 Sun 30-Apr-23 01:13:47

Only you know the true situation you are living in so here is what I think based on the information you have given.
The things I couldn't put up with are infidelity, an alcoholic, a gambler, a person wanting to control my life, jealousy, these are the biggies for me and you don't mention any of these. OK he likes family history research I don't see anything wrong with that. My hubby likes sport we have two TVs so it's not a problem. We have different hobbies and spend time away from each other, have our own friends, all this is quite normal and healthy. I wouldn't want to spend every minute of the day with him.
My husband and I have been married for over 50 years we don't need to spend time in each other pockets.
I don't think any women should be so reliant on their husband, go out meet people join clubs and enjoy your life.

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Apr-23 08:18:11

The O/P doesn't mention it being impossible financially so I'm assuming it's viable.

My question is - is there still enough love, support, love that will sustain the years ahead.

and to repeat, the statement "it has been building for years with threats of divorce from both of us."

Seems to indicate for me there is more than indifference gin on.

On the other hand, the grass isn't always greener...key question, can you envisage a life alone? Do you want it? You don't say what age you are or your health.

Nana75 Sat 21-Oct-23 17:30:54

Husband emailed ex girlfriend from 56years ago!He sent his email address to her friend and she contacted him first.He wanted "forgiveness" for "dumping her when she was 16 and he was 18.She stated there was nothing to forgive and they were" too young "and" not meant to be ".A few emails later,some I saw,some I didn't.Then he set up a" secret meeting for coffee ".This I was NOT meant to see.However I can" read him and I knew something was up.I reacted by telling him to stay away from me.He was stunned and after deleting it decided I had better see it but I wouldn't like it.I was devastated.Needless to say she never replied to the invitation.?Maybe because she is in a relationship.Anyway I needless to say am having a hard time dealing with this.All emails have stopped.However my trust in him has been severely shaken for the first time in 53years! I cannot seem to come to terms with the deceit and lies. Help!
stunned and after

Allsorts Sat 21-Oct-23 17:43:58

It depends if you want to live the rest if your life feeling like this. Lots of couples remain married but led separate lives, I couldn’t do that though. It’s very lonely sometimes on your own but preferable to being alone with someone you can’t stand. I wouldn’t stay anywhere if I was not in a good relationship, but that’s just me.
Nana, you must be so hurt, you have been married so many years now so no doubt you won’t let this silliness, for that’s what it is on his side, break you up, he has always been a good husband up to now I think he must have a few moments of madness to do what he did. Have a good talk with him tell him his behaving like a silly fool has really upset you then try if you can to move on from this.

Nana75 Sat 21-Oct-23 19:25:01

Thankyou Allsorts,I certainly have told him,it,s not a good idea to delve into the past!Definitely not where ex,s are concerned.I know people can be "friends" with those they had previous relationships with but..,not when it had got to the intimate stage albeit only once.He did describe "the event" in an email to her as "embraces getting stronger culminating in an evening of mutual passion,which was tender and special "when her parents were out! Wow mills and boon here I come! Am I too synical?

Nana75 Tue 24-Oct-23 10:49:39

Since I originally posted,things have moved on.H.was out yesterday and I had a thought.Why don't I tell him he can do as he likes! Go and see this woman from his long distant past! ( She lives about 2 hours away).Or restart emailing again! If that,s what he wants..,who am I to "control" what he does?Well,to cut a long story short I said this to him and guess what?He asked me if I would email her to give my permission for their emails to restart!WOW! I didn't expect that!Please don't say it serves me right!What I expected and hoped he would say was "no it really doesn't matter,I,m over all that now" .And obviously that is not the case.In fact I quite believe if she was not in a relationship he would have gone to see her with or without my knowledge!! So back to square one! By the way I did not agree to emailing her.And now when I mention any of what has happened,since the beginning I,m faced with an angry outburst from him! I'm completely stuck!!

grandtanteJE65 Fri 27-Oct-23 15:16:28

Leaving is only simple if you have no emotional ties any longer to the person you are leaving.

It is also complicated if you either know you will not have enough to live on, if you leave, or doubt whether you will be badly off.

Only you can decide the emotional side of things, but your bank manager, accountant (if you have one) trade union or Citizen's advice should be able to help you clarify your financial position and the legal implications regarding house ownership etc. if you do decide to leave.

Once you are quite clear about these issues you should be better able to decide what you want to do.

Whether life will be better or worse if you leave, no-one can tell you. This will depend both upon what you want, and upon a number of circumstances, some of which will be beyond your control.

Katie59 Fri 27-Oct-23 16:10:28

A lot will depend on your circumstances when I decided to leave I knew I would get a good settlement, although I didn't have any plan in particular I had been doing my own thing for 10 yrs anyway, ever since the children left home. He simply wasn’t interested in the things I wanted to do and I was pretty confident with my own hobbies and travel.
Then 6 months later I was invited on a date by a widower I had known socially for many years, we are now married and do most things together. You never know what is round the corner

Dempie55 Fri 27-Oct-23 16:32:51

If you’re just living as flatmates, I’d get out before he falls ill and you feel obliged to look after him. Why live in bitter resentment when you can have your own place and be relaxed and fulfilled?

Nana75 Sat 28-Oct-23 15:20:48

Thankyou all for the replies.Basically before his"silliness"we were quite happy,i.e.holidays together etc. His apparent "reason"for the silliness was boredom which started during the pandamic.Afterwhich I restarted seeing friends meeting for lunch and coffee.Also his cousin sent a copy of their family tree.This made him curious about people from his past,namely ex girlfriends.I did advise against it,saying ,it's often a bad idea.How right I was!!Anyway,obviously he took no need and went ahead with his quest facilitated by a "peoples website" .Couldn't immediately find the one but managed to locate a friend of here ,wrote to her enc losing his email address.And from that the ex responded.