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Husband retired, I still work. My husband is driving me crazy!

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babs75 Thu 21-Sept-23 18:30:48

I'm getting to my wits end. My husband retired mid 2019 from construction, a year or so earlier than I thought he was going to but we've made it work. I am 66, continue to work, want to work, and have no plans ot retire anytime soon. Since Covid in early 2020, they made my job full time work-from-home. I began this new career as a data analyst 10 years ago, different from what I did the last 30, and have found it to be something I'm really good at. I have excelled at it, gotten promotions, and am a project leader for our team of 15, just one step down from my manager. I am finally getting paid what I am worth. It has been very refreshing and I've enjoyed the fact it has helped us financially. The last year had it's own set of challenges as the project I've been on the last 4 years came to a head and required very long work days for many months. Things have leveled out now so I am back to 8 hour days.

I have many hobbies including 2-3 Zumba classes a week (I also got certified to teach last spring although I cannot make that time commitment right now), sewing, 'Cricuting', and I purchased a telescope after attending an astronomy class last winter term. My husband and I attend training with a personal trainer once a week and we both enjoy estate sales on the weekend.

I am also legal guardian and conservator to my 97 year old dad which takes some time itself. But since Covid, I am home all day working, my husband is home all day, and he is bored to death. We are together too much. I crave time to myself. It's just gotten to be an obsession with me. We have vacation property for camping a couple hours north of here so he may go up there for a few days every few weeks which gives me some badly needed 'me' time but when I know he's returning, a sort of 'depression' sets in. I find I am actually happier by myself being able to just do what I want. When he is here, I find myself constantly on the defense as to why I need to plan my day/week, set a schedule and am not able to just do something on the spur of the moment. I really function better on a schedule. He hates that part of my 'accounting brain', as he calls it.

Because of this project, I really haven't been able to take much vacation time. Sometimes it's harder to get job coverage than it's worth and the amount of emails/work to do when I get back just usually isn't worth it and I have no issue with this. Again, today, 'Why can't you call in sick. Let's go do something together'. No, I have work to do. I am not here to entertain him and he is usually met with the statement from me, 'It was your idea to retire'.

I have asked him to get a parttime job, although his pension does not allow him to do any construction, asked him to do volunteer work but he doesn't want to do that, etc. I'm happier at home. I have plenty to do here. Do some married people take separate vacations? I have no interest in travel and the last time we did fly somewhere, he had a downright tantrum in the Bay Area traffic. No fun. Short fuse, no patience. I plan to work until I am at least 70 and if I'm not ready to retire, I've already warned him I'm going to work as long as I want which is going to cause a big problem when I get there but trying not to dwell on the future right now.

Having been involved in my dad's care for 8 years has shown me how much it costs to go into old age. I continue to save some money but do not want to get to a place where I quit too soon and then had to go back to work. I am at a loss. I am so sad most of the time, I just want to cry. I wish he would just leave me alone. He really needs to find something to do. He is so dependent on me.

Callistemon21 Fri 22-Sept-23 22:36:17

My DH was like a spare part when he retired a while after me, he really didnt like retirement at first. I'd already found groups, activities that I enjoyed doing in retirement but he did mope around a bit.
So I told him to find some voluntary work and to join some interest groups.
He did, with enthusiasm.

Then I found I had to make an appointment if I wanted to arrange a day out together.

Gundy Sat 23-Sept-23 04:59:04

TELL HIM how you feel and to get out and get a part time job or you will leave him. Give him a deadline to find something that will get him out of the house

That’s pretty direct talk here. Sounds like I don’t have any sympathy for him. I don’t, I’m sorry to say. What a drag on your life.

I’m not a hard-hearted Hannah, but this would drive me insane. If you’re already telling him how he is killing the marriage some TOUGH TALK about divorce has to come into play.

I also think by doing what he’s doing - he’s being mentally abusive.

cornergran Sat 23-Sept-23 09:56:40

A different perspective here. Mr C had always worked long hours, a stressful profession often took him away from home. I worked around children as I could, enjoyed a variety of roles but by no stretch of the imagination did I have a career.

I began to train in my forties, by the time I was 50 I was the proud and exhausted possessor of an MA plunging into a challenging professional life which I loved. Mr C wound down from about age 60, finished work at 68, I’m five years younger and worked until I was nearly 70 a lot of the time from home where there were boundaries in place to protect my working life from interruptions.

I worried a bit as Mr C also seemed to have little to occupy him until I realised he was perfectly happy to just potter around, read, listen to music and occasionally go out to do some low key photography. He talked about those years being my time, a sort of pay back for the years I had put his professional needs first.

It does sound to me as if a balance has been lost for you babs We enjoyed evenings and weekends together. Had several low key breaks a year, visited friends and spent time with our family. Could you reinstate some balance babs? Find a way to feel life is good for you both? I guess the real question is do you really want to do that? There are some difficult conversations to be had I think.

eazybee Sat 23-Sept-23 10:23:56

I don't know what your previous existence was like, Babs, before you discovered rather late in life you were a high-powered business woman, but it sounds as though your career has taken over your life and you are eager to part company with your husband, the sooner the better. It is rather hard on to resent him lolling about in his own house after a life-time of work; as long as you have a separate work space and a closed door, no need for him to be excluded from his house.
May be for the best, only you know that, but this job isn't going to last for ever; you are already over retirement age and it is unlikely you will be working at this level in in ten years time.
Then what?

Lyndylou Sat 23-Sept-23 11:15:26

There isn't rearly a retirement age any more eazybee, not in the UK. There is a point where the State Pension starts to kick in, but I am not even sure the OP is in the UK.

I was told when I started my present role 5 years ago, that my work's retirement age was 72. Now I am a few months from reaching that particular birthday, I have been assured that is no longer the case and I can keep working as long as I want to (or am able to, of course).

dogsmother Sat 23-Sept-23 11:34:00

Don’t understand why you are married to him, if you can’t fit him into your schedule 🤷‍♀️

fluttERBY123 Sat 23-Sept-23 12:35:40

Take 3 hours, go to the pub, neutral territory.
You each write a list of your minimum requirements, each from.the other. It does clarify things if you write them down.
You might want 3 days when he goes.out for at least 6 hours. He might want 4 days a month devoted to joint outings. Etc.
Permanent niggling gets you nowhere. Dh and I have these discussions are still here, just about.

Callistemon21 Sat 23-Sept-23 14:44:18

It sounds as if you don't love him and don't even particularly like him.

You could do what someone I heard of did - send him an email, tell him you've set out your agenda for next year and he is not on it.

Business-like and to the point.

He could then take his share of your joint equity and lead the kind of boring life he wants after a long working life without someone getting annoyed with him because he's in the way.

eazybee Sat 23-Sept-23 15:06:50

I believe if you are still working after 65 you can continue working as long as you are fit, but there is definitely a clear-out of people just before they reach 65 to prevent them carrying on. Perhaps they have altered this in accordance with when people are eligible to receive their state pension.

Callistemon21 Sat 23-Sept-23 17:18:38

eazybee

I believe if you are still working after 65 you can continue working as long as you are fit, but there is definitely a clear-out of people just before they reach 65 to prevent them carrying on. Perhaps they have altered this in accordance with when people are eligible to receive their state pension.

I think the OP could be in the US so I don't think there are the same pension arrangements there.

Dinahmo Sat 23-Sept-23 17:28:58

eazybee

I don't know what your previous existence was like, Babs, before you discovered rather late in life you were a high-powered business woman, but it sounds as though your career has taken over your life and you are eager to part company with your husband, the sooner the better. It is rather hard on to resent him lolling about in his own house after a life-time of work; as long as you have a separate work space and a closed door, no need for him to be excluded from his house.
May be for the best, only you know that, but this job isn't going to last for ever; you are already over retirement age and it is unlikely you will be working at this level in in ten years time.
Then what?

The OP did say that she found this new career 10 years ago having already worked for 30 years.

Dinahmo Sat 23-Sept-23 17:33:43

Reading through the posts from the many who think she should be giving up work I'm wondering what you expect her to do if she retires now. No doubt sit and twiddle her thumbs whilst her OH thinks of something he'd like to do.

I'm 76 and still working, doing something that I enjoy. My DH retired when we moved to France when he was 60, knowing that I would continue for as long as I could. He does the garden and most of the housework and at least half of the cooking. Unfortunately our pensions are insufficient for me not to work as I have no wish to lead a hand to mouth existence.

Callistemon21 Sat 23-Sept-23 18:01:11

You seem to have achieved an amicable balance, Dinahmo, unlike the OP.

Aveline Sat 23-Sept-23 18:21:25

That's the ideal though - a balance. The OP's life and marriage seem to be out of balance. Both are unhappy as a result.

jeanie99 Sat 23-Sept-23 23:06:53

It's pretty obvious what he needs to do but the fact of life is you cannot change another human being to fit in with what your requirements are.
From courtship and over the years, working, having children and grandchildren. Fitting in a bit of me time and couple time pushed in.
In this time that young man we fell in love with changes and you change. We become different people.
The relationship evolves over the many years and at some point you think this person is driving me mad.
My husband and I are retired, I encourage him to do the things that interest him I do the things that interest me. We rub along, what is the alternative.

NotSpaghetti Sat 23-Sept-23 23:41:55

Do you even love him anymore?

DrWatson Sun 24-Sept-23 04:14:20

Well babs75, what a conundrum! If you're 66 and doing well as a data analyst, good for you. I had 30+ years in IT, stopped in the early 60s, and by 66 I'd have been nodding off at the desk?!

And well done for keeping active! Many forums and articles have said that's exactly what people need to do, keep brain and body as active as possible, else they soon fall into disuse and sadly disrepair!

Sounds like you're somewhere near San Fran, and I have no idea what your hubby could be doing over there to keep occupied. You say "his pension does not allow him to do any construction, I asked him to do volunteer work but he doesn't want to do that" - well, I don't understand the 'pension' point, and if he doesn't want to be bored, I don't follow the 2nd point either?!

Could he set up as an 'odd job man'? I know a couple of guys here do such things, as huge numbers of folk - often sadly widows whose hubby didn't make it to this sort of age -- need someone to do routine little jobs and repairs round the home. He doesn't have to do a long day, and should get some satisfaction from helping those in need, plus he can pick and choose his days and hours. OR - was he ever any good at sports? If so, help out with young people?

I found volunteerinfo.org and www.volunteermatch.org/search (if you're NOT Bay Area, then look for similar?) which have LOADS of things to do!

eazybee Sun 24-Sept-23 10:32:10

I am surprised that someone who had worked for thirty years suddenly discovered at the age of 56 that she was an amazing business woman. I sense an air of desperation in her post and feel she is having to work harder and do more to keep her place, which is why she resents her husband's presence in his own home, so much.
She would do better to work in a separate office, working as many hours as she needs. The husband will be on his own but won't distract her and may be perfectly happy pottering, which she resents, or find activities he enjoys.
She needs to maintain a clear divide between work and home.

Jennyluck Sun 24-Sept-23 20:14:06

This is the problem for men retiring without any hobbies. I think women can always find something to do.
All of a sudden you are together 24/7, and quite often it’s just too much. And maybe you don’t like each other that much anymore. It’s a hard time to navigate.
I find it frustrating that I hardly ever get the house to myself.

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 20:23:45

Jennyluck

This is the problem for men retiring without any hobbies. I think women can always find something to do.
All of a sudden you are together 24/7, and quite often it’s just too much. And maybe you don’t like each other that much anymore. It’s a hard time to navigate.
I find it frustrating that I hardly ever get the house to myself.

All of a sudden you are together 24/7, and quite often it’s just too much
I find it frustrating that I hardly ever get the house to myself

It sounds as if you don't have any hobbies that take you out of the house either , Jennyluck

Why not join U3A or other groups?

notgoneyet Sun 24-Sept-23 20:23:55

All these comments and suggestions - yet not another word or comment from OP?

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 20:28:01

notgoneyet

All these comments and suggestions - yet not another word or comment from OP?

She's far too busy!

NotSpaghetti Wed 27-Sept-23 00:47:12

Callistemon21 grin

Mitzigem Wed 27-Sept-23 03:26:54

I think I feel sorry for your husband. I think he needs to find himself a companion. Hopefully you won’t get jealous.

Gundy Fri 29-Sept-23 07:03:22

Mitzigem Oh, this was a good answer! 😆