Petition: Give legal right of contact between grandchildren and grandparents

Smileless2012 i am all for children having a close relationship with their grandparents. I adored and was very close to my maternal grandmother. My children were very close to both sets of grandparents and as grandparents now we have a close relataionship with our grandchildren

My objection is grandparents themselves having any right of access to ther grand children.

In many cases grand parents are excluded because they are not the cosy loving grandparents of children's stories, but for various reasons their children decide they do not want contact with them, abusive, difficult and manipulative parents grow old to become abusive, difficult and manipulative grandparents. Of course their are loving grandparents who are excluded, but what good does it do a child to be forced to have a relatinship with someone who their parents make quite clear is not somebody they want them to know and who will resent any show of affection by the child to the grandparents.

A grandparents insiting on legal rights of access is a grandparent wielding power over their children after they have become of age and independent and of itself is abusive.

I don’t think any regular poster has asked for the right to see their grandchildren.

DiamondLily

I don’t think any regular poster has asked for the right to see their grandchildren.

It's literally the OP

I think one poster said they would sign, on page 1. I hope this thread sends a message to the OP.

DiamondLily

I don’t think any regular poster has asked for the right to see their grandchildren.

They haven't, DiamondLily and consequently I don't think anyone has signed the petition.

Why posters keep arguing a point which hasn't been made is bemusing.

Germanshepherdsmum

I think one poster said they would sign, on page 1. I hope this thread sends a message to the OP.

Oh, apologies, I must have missed that.

You're right GSM only one poster has said they'd sign this petition which of course they're entitled to do so, so I don't understand why there are so many posts about how awful some GP's can be, when 99% of those responding here are GP's, and don't agree with GP's having an automatic right to see their GC.

The tendency for threads like this to end up as GP bashing is tiresome.

When some posters get onto some threads they always end up with posts about abuse.

It is the sort of thing that some would not say they would do, but still do it.

Especially not say after the negative posts on this thread!

VioletSky

DiamondLily

I don’t think any regular poster has asked for the right to see their grandchildren.

It's literally the OP

Who is not a regular poster. 🙂

I may. Probably not. But I am not ruling it out.
And certainly wouldnt be swayed by 99 people saying they wouldnt, if I still wanted to. After reading some more about it all.

Callistemon21

DiamondLily

I don’t think any regular poster has asked for the right to see their grandchildren.

They haven't, DiamondLily and consequently I don't think anyone has signed the petition.

Why posters keep arguing a point which hasn't been made is bemusing.

Well, I can’t see any regular posters have asked. New people often rock up on forums but they are not regulars.🙄

Smileless2012

You're right GSM only one poster has said they'd sign this petition which of course they're entitled to do so, so I don't understand why there are so many posts about how awful some GP's can be, when 99% of those responding here are GP's, and don't agree with GP's having an automatic right to see their GC.

The tendency for threads like this to end up as GP bashing is tiresome.

No, I don’t understand why so much about GPs tends to be dragged over and end up about abuse.

The vast majority of GPs aren’t, and never have been, abusive. The vast amount of parents aren’t abusive.

Some families are just not abusive.

DiamondLily

VioletSky

DiamondLily

I don’t think any regular poster has asked for the right to see their grandchildren.

It's literally the OP

Who is not a regular poster. 🙂

And has left the building!

Callistemon21

DiamondLily

VioletSky

DiamondLily

I don’t think any regular poster has asked for the right to see their grandchildren.

It's literally the OP

Who is not a regular poster. 🙂

And has left the building!

Don’t blame her….shes probably run off screaming lol 😉

No, I'd not sign or share.

I doubt this to be huge. Merely a sadness impacting a few in the whole of the country. GP can wait patiently, contacting GC when of adult age.

Good point fancythat. I'm sure anyone on GN whose going too or has already signed this petition will be keeping it quiet, not that they should have too if they believe it to be right.

Just seems rather bizarre DL how often GP's are hauled over the coals and made to feel uncomfortable on GN, a site predominantly but not exclusively for GP's.

Because of we live in lala land where we refuse to discuss the bad things in life, petitions like this get signed

A couple of years ago, the last petition went through... Many signed it then

Almost none now

So discussing the reality of why the law is as it is has made a difference and people did listen

Or wait to see if their GC contact them Norah which does happen.

Just seems rather bizarre DL how often GP's are hauled over the coals and made to feel uncomfortable on GN, a site predominantly but not exclusively for GP's

Strange, isn't it!

I don't know why you seem intent on trying to argue with people who agree that GP's shouldn't have an automatic right to see their GC VS .

I don't know about you, but I can assure you that I don't live in lala land.

Yes it is strange Callistemon but sadly not uncommon.

Callistemon21

^Just seems rather bizarre DL how often GP's are hauled over the coals and made to feel uncomfortable on GN, a site predominantly but not exclusively for GP's^

Strange, isn't it!

You’d almost think there was an agenda. 🙄

^ GP can wait patiently, contacting GC when of adult age^

Troubles are
They may have been moved. Even out of a country.
Had people whispering things in their ears against the grandparents.
Feel their grandparents are strangers when they finally meet, which they would be.

DiamondLily

Callistemon21

DiamondLily

VioletSky

DiamondLily

I don’t think any regular poster has asked for the right to see their grandchildren.

It's literally the OP

Who is not a regular poster. 🙂

And has left the building!

Don’t blame her….shes probably run off screaming lol 😉

The OP did get rather upset on the other thread she started with a link to the petition.
When posters said they wouldn't not be signing, she started calling them by rather rude names.

I think it was deleted as a duplicate thread.