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Son asking me if he should marry his partner

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Margomar Sun 17-Nov-24 22:42:38

My son has been living with his partner in a house they are buying together. He’s 43, she’s 37, she wants to marry and have a family. He’s tells us he is 70 /30 in favour of marrying her but is obviously not totally convinced . He is a serious person, quite gentle and likes to have deep discussions about politics, books etc and is is sometimes a bit neurotic. His partner really loves him but she is uncomplicated, quite sporty and loves travel, mountaineering. (We get on very well with her) He voiced his doubts to us, his parents, saying that although he loves her, finds her really attractive and good fun, she never wants to talk about any of the serious or darker issues in their lives, such as their differing attitudes to money/finance She just wants problems to “go away” . He thinks their differences could be a problem for him long term.
He has taken a long time to “grow up”, he dossed around smoking dope, trying to be a musician until he was 30, but then pulled himself together and has a professional career.
So I wondered how others would advise their son?

NotSpaghetti Tue 19-Nov-24 17:35:40

I don't understand why everyone has jumped to negative conclusions about the OP's son.

He is aware she never wants to talk about any of the serious or darker issues in their lives, such as their differing attitudes to money/finance She just wants problems to “go away”.

We all know, once you have a family you cannot do this.

It is this attitude which is immature in my opinion.

That said, if this was my son I'd be a listening ear to his thoughts and maybe ask careful questions but I'd suggest he speaks to his girlfriend to see how they might navigate these problems in future.

If she won't/can't engage then it's up to him to decide if he can carry the burden of the "difficult stuff" on his own and let her do her own thing?
If he knows she's head-in-the-sand before hand at least he can think about it.

PS. The only mountaineer I have ever known was a lovely person but definitely did the mountaineering as an "escape from reality".

homefarm Tue 19-Nov-24 17:46:12

If he has doubts don't do it.

MaggsMcG Tue 19-Nov-24 18:19:00

Perhaps he should talk to her about this. Give her a chance to see if she wants to meet half way. Or if she can even change her own attitude to "grow up". They shouldn't waste time either way.

MissAdventure Tue 19-Nov-24 18:20:58

Not very romantic, being reduced to a percentage.

nexus63 Tue 19-Nov-24 18:41:45

listen but don't advice, this has to be his decision, they have already made a commitment with buying a house together and maybe his partner want's to be wed before children and at 37 she may feel the clock is ticking. they sound like an unusual match.

Stella14 Tue 19-Nov-24 18:49:57

I agree with the previous poster who said he still has growing up to do if he needs to ask his parents this question. Don’t advise him. It’s not appropriate and also, if he does what you suggest and he comes to regret that decision, he well we’ll blame you. The only thing I’d be prepared to say is that a life partner does not have to fill every role. Friends/relatives can fill an ‘interest’ gap!

Grandmafrench Tue 19-Nov-24 18:54:47

If you have to ask the question ‘should I get married?’
- of yourself
Or anyone,
You should NOT be doing it!

valdavi Tue 19-Nov-24 18:55:40

I don't think it's that odd for him to ask his mum - he thinks things through & it's a big decision & he doesn't sound like an impulsive person who would just go with the course of least resistance . Asking someone, voicing the doubts, may help clarify what he needs to do in his own mind. He sounds lovely.
When I was a child I overheard one fruit-picker ask another fruitpicker, in all earnestness, if she should marry her boyfriend. Sometimes having to make such a big decision just chases itself round your brain until you feel desperate & just have to tell someone. They say it's good to talk, & I can see that it might hurt his girlfriend to hear about his doubts.

Macadia Tue 19-Nov-24 18:55:58

I married not because I wanted to live the rest of my life with him but because I didn't want to live the rest of my life without him.

If your son can imagine a happy life without her or with a different more compatible partner than he should stop pretending that he's the one.

netflixfan Tue 19-Nov-24 20:51:02

If she wants a child she should leave pdq, and find a man, not a boy.

Avanew Tue 19-Nov-24 22:58:54

Just a thought - among my friends, most of the partnerships and marriages everybody else thought would work, didn't, and the most unlikely couples settled down happily for life. It's an incredibly difficult thing for anyone else to judge. Even a parent.

SparklyGrandma Tue 19-Nov-24 23:15:44

Effective communication and love are important for a successful marriage. Especially if children are planned.

Things just don’t ’go away’.

Maybe go for a walk or drive, when you are sitting next to each other, it’s easier not facing each other - work on that communication.

icanhandthemback Tue 19-Nov-24 23:23:31

I wonder if Margomar had written that her son was in love with a woman who wanted to get married but he had concerns that she sticks her head in the sand about finances and doesn't try to resolve matters but hopes problems would go away if there would be less criticism of the son. I think these are quite important things to be concerned about. Marrying and having children is often fraught with problems. If someone avoids talking about how to put things right, how do things change or get resolved? How do you pull as a team if you can't discuss these matters?
I would tell him that it sounds like he has valid concerns about the long term and if his girlfriend is serious about getting married, they need to start talking about why he is reluctant. If she doesn't want to hear that, he definitely should not pop the question.

Jannicans Wed 20-Nov-24 01:02:34

He's just telling his mum how it is, I can't see where he is asking her advice. Sounds as though they aren't ready for marriage if she just buries her head in the sand about money, that's often the cause of divorce.

Norah Wed 20-Nov-24 12:39:48

OP doesn't say if her son wants to marry and have children, he may not be ready to marry someone with whom he disagrees on finances. Bring children into that mix? No Thank You.

Perhaps speak to financial difficulties being a stumbling block? Nothing else -- as his marriage is really a private decision.

David49 Wed 20-Nov-24 13:09:29

I don’t think there is anything wrong in asking for another opinion, they are plenty couples get it wrong. I did ask my eldest daughter, knowing I would get an honest opinion, if it had been negative I would not have married, just continued being partners.

mabon1 Wed 20-Nov-24 13:41:27

Do not tell him to marry her or not. If all goes pear-shaped and they marry, he will blame you. What kind of son asks his mother if he should get married? Wow, I can't believe it.

DiamondLily Wed 20-Nov-24 18:00:33

If he’s got to ask his mum, he shouldn’t marry anyone.

When you know someone is “the one”, you don’t need second opinions.🙂

OldFrill Wed 20-Nov-24 19:14:26

Jannicans

He's just telling his mum how it is, I can't see where he is asking her advice. Sounds as though they aren't ready for marriage if she just buries her head in the sand about money, that's often the cause of divorce.

OP certainly thinks she's being asked to advise, in the heading & the last sentence.

Lydie45 Sat 23-Nov-24 12:10:30

I agree, if she wants children she should try and find someone who loves her. He’s been happy to live with her, sleep with her share his life with her but doesn’t know if he want to marry her because she doesn’t want to talk about ‘serious issues’ Who marries their partner to talk about ‘serious issues’ if she doesn’t want to talk about money, then he can handle it. Most couples I know divide things between them for example I always handled our money even though my husband earned much more than me. If he wants to talk about ‘serious issues’ he can join a debating group.

MissAdventure Sat 23-Nov-24 16:45:33

My friend is too late for motherhood now, due to hanging around, waiting for her partner to agree to the right time to have children.

They split up, and she had a really short amount of time in which to meet someone, and hurriedly rush into getting pregnant, (not ideal in itself) but it hasn't happened for her.

Grammaretto Sat 23-Nov-24 18:17:04

If I'd married the young man my mum thought suitable.
What a thought! He was dull as ditchwater but earned a good living and sang in her choir.
I did manage to set him up for a date with a friend of mine. I wonder what became of him.

SporeRB Sat 23-Nov-24 19:03:07

You son seems rather immature for his age. Not many 43 years old men out there will call their parents and ask for their opinion as to whether he should marry his live in partner or not.

I feel sorry for his partner, at 37 years old, it may be too late for her to find someone else with whom she can start a family.

If it were me, I will say ‘It is up to you. You make your own decision’. And then let him make and learn from his own mistakes. It will be good for his soul, it might even help him to grow up.

jeanie99 Tue 26-Nov-24 00:06:50

This is not something you should even consider offering advice about.
He's old enough to make his own decision.

Margomar Fri 29-Nov-24 17:52:57

Thanks for interesting comments, a lot of food for thought! Some have said his partner should run a mile, but I doubt she will, she has been hurt before in relationships and although my DS is many of the things said here, entitled, indecisive, afraid of commitment etc basically he is very kind, a great listener and in her eyes she is his soul mate. I think he initially asked my advice as he doesn’t want to ever hurt her. We are a family who find it easy to share personal feelings, so it’s not too weird for him to talk to me about it,
I think they may get engaged at Christmas!