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An apology is called for

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absentgrana Thu 30-Aug-12 22:16:02

I need to apologise to all those Gransnetters who wanted to contribute to a serious discussion on this thread because it was badly disrupted by a juvenile disagreement. Gramps, who started a thoughtful conversation, deserves a particular apology – and I am truly sorry.

I should have had more sense than to let myself be riled by the first accusation – that I was unfair – supported by a grotesque misrepresentation of my original post. The viewpoint attributed to me was so fatuous that it was in itself insulting.

However, allowing the benefit of the doubt (scanning posts too quickly, perhaps), I clarified what I had said in the simplest possible terms. Shortly afterwards, exactly the same claim was made about my original post with the same absurd viewpoint attributed to me. I was also advised to read posts carefully – something I invariably do, although clearly my posts were not being read quite so assiduously.

There had also been a gratuitous comment that appeared to denigrate those Gransnetters who were non-Christian. While I didn't feel that this applied specifically to me, I was deeply indignant about it and I have, in any case, taken exception to every throwaway post about Gransnetters who are, apparently, not up to snuff in the view of a self-appointed arbiter.

I tried once again to clarify my viewpoint but was, I think, expressing a degree of anger that was, with hindsight, clearly excessive about something so trivial. Then once the poster launched into victim mode – invariably her default form of defence – I totally unforgivably dropped my lollies. I also made an accusation – of hypocrisy. Justified or not, it was a gross breach of courtesy and forum etiquette which I very much regret.

JO4 Fri 31-Aug-12 11:11:26

Alison Gransnet is great for toughening you up. smile

JO4 Fri 31-Aug-12 11:12:41

Really. After a while - you won't care!

JO4 Fri 31-Aug-12 11:13:25

I can almost smell those meadows from here Greatnan. slight envy

Greatnan Fri 31-Aug-12 11:21:25

I don't dislike you, Alison, as I don't know you. I dislike the fact that you have on many occasions referred to other members as being in a clique, being arrogant, bullies, rude, etc. etc. You refuse to say which posts have made you reach that conclusion and fall back on your usual defence that you are just generalising. You say you think there are cliques, but you have told us numerous times that you get lots of messages of support - does that not constitute a clique? I also get lots of support, but most of my supporters have the courage to do it on the open forum.
I refer you back to your post of 10.50.47 yesterday when you specifically mentioned that Christians did their good deeds in silence. I think most intelligent people would deduce from that and the following phrase that you were implying that atheists do not. In fact, that we boast about our abilities and deeds. If that is not what you meant, I am very glad to hear it.
I think I have made my feelings sufficiently clear on numerous occasions and I won't 'milk' it any further but I will continue to challenge you and any of your supporters who make insulting allegations about other members without quoting which post gives rise to your remarks.

AlisonMA Fri 31-Aug-12 11:28:18

You exagerate Greatnan but I have had enough of this J04 is right, I shouldn't care. I don't know you and I doubt I ever will. You have a choice, you can read what you like into my posts, that's up to you. If you choose to be negative go ahead. I've said before why people don't "have the courage to do it on the open forum" but you clearly don't empathise with those of more gentle sensibilities. Numerous (consisting of many numbers) is one of your exagerations, presumably for effect. Do what you like. I'm going shopping now and won't be returning to this thread.

Nonu Fri 31-Aug-12 11:30:16

Not poking my nose in , you sound alright AlisonMA

absentgrana Fri 31-Aug-12 11:31:20

AlisonMA It is not for you or anyone else to decide where I should post. I deliberately chose to start a new conversation – to which I didn't expect to get many replies – because I felt that the conversation about god had been disrupted more than enough by the storm in a teacup that had erupted earlier.

From your comments on here, it is clear that you have not read or not understood my opening post. However, you can, of course, continue to comment on it but this time I shall not rise to the bait.