Gransnet forums

Religion/spirituality

Christian University Society bans women speakers

(46 Posts)
Bags Tue 04-Dec-12 17:45:14

Bristol University Christian Union has apparently banned women speakers unless they are with their husband!

WHAT!? shock

absentgrana Tue 04-Dec-12 17:48:10

I can't stop laughing.

Bags Tue 04-Dec-12 17:48:35

Hysterically?

Mishap Tue 04-Dec-12 17:59:45

Could April 1st have crept up on us unawares?

JessM Tue 04-Dec-12 18:02:04

Does seem out there in the realms of the implausible.
How can the Student's Union allow this?

Greatnan Tue 04-Dec-12 18:09:17

Looks a genuine account. They do keep shooting themselves in the foot, don't they?

absentgrana Tue 04-Dec-12 18:11:03

Yes Bags completely hysterically. Still doing it.

Mishap I hope not – that's my wedding anniversary.

MiceElf Tue 04-Dec-12 18:33:38

Who are 'they'?

Greatnan Tue 04-Dec-12 18:36:52

Take your pick - the synod on women bishops, the scout association, and in this case the people who made this daft decision.

FlicketyB Tue 04-Dec-12 18:46:38

And what about unmarried women, would three of them be considered equivalent to man and wife? In Sharia law two female witnesses equal one male witness.

feetlebaum Tue 04-Dec-12 18:47:11

1 Timothy 2:12 "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

So there... this is what happens when people put their 'faith' in corrupt ancient scribblings...

annodomini Tue 04-Dec-12 19:35:38

As a student, I always knew that the CU was evangelical - going around asking people if they were 'saved' - but never quite so batty as this! Anyway, I thought that some, if not all, evangelical churches had women ministers.

Lilygran Tue 04-Dec-12 19:42:48

Agree, anno the CUs have always had a reputation for extremism. It's astonishing, isn't it, that people of that age should take an extreme position? I imagine if they don't fall into line, the university will apply pressure. Quite right, too.

JessM Tue 04-Dec-12 19:53:12

I read an article in the Economist. In Saudi they have now decided that women over 52 can be allowed out on their own without a male escort. And younger women if their male guardian has a permit.
The Saudi's and the CU should get together.

Notsogrand Tue 04-Dec-12 20:01:20

Isn't it fascinating that some women seem to 'allow' decisions like this to be implimented?

Get 6 single female students to agree on a policy of 'sod that for a game of soldiers'...that's all it would take. At every given opportunity, gathering, lecture, group discussion...whatever.....stand up with a sheet of interesting and relevant notes and start to TALK OVER the male speakers. Just keep doing it, over and over. If you're asked to stop, say you'd prefer not to and keep going. It would cause ructions! Just keep doing it, day after day.

Then whilst the 'think they're important' people are getting together to seek a solution, phone the local press, get them along to the next event that you plan to speak at and tell them you wont be cross if they send their report and photographs to the Daily Mail. Finally, everyone tweet like mad about it.

I'd give it 2 weeks max before the decision was reversed.

Greatnan Tue 04-Dec-12 20:04:34

I found the best way was to get the top job and do it very well.

annodomini Tue 04-Dec-12 20:14:44

Has the Taliban infiltrated the CU?

jeni Tue 04-Dec-12 20:55:12

Ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!angry

Nelliemoser Wed 05-Dec-12 08:48:22

I was aware that there was a C of E Church in Bristol that is a real hot bed of evangelicals. Christ Church Clifton!
As some else has said its probably the Christian "Taliban" pracher at work there.
It is quite terrifying.
www.ccweb.org.uk.

Ariadne Wed 05-Dec-12 08:55:22

Oh dear! angry Idiots!

Greatnan Wed 05-Dec-12 09:16:18

I think there is some fear amongst all the churches because of the various scandals and falling attendances. I heard of a recent survey that found that 70% of 11-year olds did not believe in a god.
My own fear is that some disillusioned members of the main-stream churches might turn to the more extreme sects - I know the 'happy clappy' evangelical churches, many with preachers from Africa, are still attracting new members. I think the even the traditional C of E is preferable to sects that believe that the devil can be beaten or starved out of children.

absentgrana Wed 05-Dec-12 09:21:41

If Matt Oliver is anything to go by, women speakers and teachers would almost certainly be more interesting and coherent than male ones. However, if a group of prejudiced and misogynistic men want to sit about discussing Middle Eastern mythology until they disappear up their own backsides, I can't see that it matters.

Nelliemoser Wed 05-Dec-12 11:29:52

I have just found time (and the internet connection) to post this statement of faith from the church I mentioned. They are definately into the literal interpretation of the bible.
So St Pauls injunctions about submitting to the authority of their husbands and women keeping silent in church is a big part of their faith.
www.ccweb.org.uk/about-us/our-vision/statement-of-faith.aspx

I suspect that Evangelicals have probably taken over the BUCU. I am not sure if the take a wholly creationist stance. If they do I wonder what they make of the university's departments of earth science and zoology etc. that rely on evolutionary theories and the 4.5billion yr old history of the geology of our planet.

Lilygran Wed 05-Dec-12 11:59:09

The CUs were like that when I was at university and that's over 50 years ago!

Joan Wed 05-Dec-12 12:36:33

Why on earth would a thinking person go near the BUCU? They are clearly utterly ridiculous. A bunch of pointless nutters.