Obama ctiticises faith schools

Disestablish,disestablish - the USA has it right, as do many other countries.

To be fair, speck, you'd have to allow faith schools for any faith. You can't allow C of E schools and no other kind of faith school in modern Britain. Simpler not to allow any so that everyone is equal. Parents still have the right to bring their children up in the religion of their choice, so it is not limiting.

The US is a much more religious country than the UK, and yet the spearation of church and state is written into their constitution. Not having faith schools is clearly not a means of limiting people's religious choices.

But it is a means of establishing equality under the law for all school kids whether they are religious or not.

I can't actually see anything wrong with any kind of faith/church schools. Grandsons go to one. It's good. They meet up with other local schools for various activities. There is no segregation!

Why are people so militant about their atheism? Live and let live I say.

#peaceman

Secularism isn't atheism.

Oh right. I did Google that the other day. Forgotten it now.

#sievebrain

Why are people so militant about their secularism?

Same reason some people (you, for instance) are 'militant' about their faith.

Actually, that's the wrong answer. It's because they care about fairness and justice. That's what secularism is for. It's not anti-religion, as you would know and understand if you thought about it properly and did a tiny bit of research as to what it means.

I'm not militant about any faith I might have.

I don't spend loads of time reading the Church Times on the net.

Sometimes I sing Onward Christian Soldiers. Not often though.

Bags - how many times have you and others explained what secularism means - time to give up?
Parents have the right to withdraw their children from RE and acts of worship - the obligation is on the school to provide it , not for all children to study it.

Parents do have the right to withdraw their children from worship. Not many do though. They can't be arsed. Same as people not being arsed to understand what secularism means, I suppose.

Apathy.

Too true!