"If nothing was ever bad or harmful and God was a kind of magician, we would be less than human." I would find it helpful if you could expand on that Lilygran.
For people looking in from the outside, so to speak, we are presented with endless examples of those with a faith asking/pleading with god to make something/someone better - presumably they must be assuming that it is possible that he/she is able to do that. Are they in error? have they misunderstood the teachings of their church?
Religions certainly look as though they are steeped in the "God as magician" concept. Requesting/invoking god's blessing is a standard religious practice
Ginny's point about god being thanked when something goes well implies control.
Like buddhists I accept suffering as a given; I have no explanation as to why it is so, and I do not think that those with a religious faith know either. Certainly my religious friends do not know and say so very clearly.
Can I just say that I am not contributing to this thread in a challenging way, but simply because the place of religion in human life is endlessly fascinating.
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