The Queen and The Pope

Just bored with it Jess M

Yes well Phoenix was having a little moment, so why take any notice as if that characterises the whole thread?

I don't see any defensiveness. It's just that adolescent lavatory humour seems pointless.

And as for religion being 'made up'. Well of course it is, just the same as every human intellectual striving to understand and make sense of the world is made up, whether it be the plays of Shakespeare or the formulation of the laws of physics. Humankind has, by discovery, trial and improvement and deep thought come an increasingly sophisticated understanding of all sorts of disciplines. That's the way we have evolved and developed.

Our understanding of almost everything is imperfect, but striving to understand and develop that understanding is part of what makes us human.

I can never understand why people with a strong religious faith are so defensive. If faith so strong, how can mere words offend?
The Anglican church is very confusing - even to some within it I think.
The first female anglican bishop in the UK was in Northern Ireland.

I don't see negativity on this thread, just a lot of questioning. Nothing wrong with that.
I agree with bags, I find it interesting to hear differing points of view.

FSM

Besides which, I think it's healthy to have one's views confronted. Makes one think.

I don't see confrontation. I see a presentation of a wide range of points of view. If anyone feels "confronted" by this, that suggests to me that they feel insecure in their own points of view.

That's why I have withdrawn from it Lilygran.

Sadly, this thread has reverted to the usual GN negativity about faith. I thought we might have turned over a new leaf with the thread started by TAB12. And please note, this OP was not confrontational.

I am Anglican, part of the world wide Anglican community , I am a member of The Church in Wales. The Arch Bish of Canterbury is the leader of the worldwide Anglican community , the queen is Gov in England only but this is ignored , no one cares , well I don't . America has gay Anglican Bishops, Wales has voted in favour of gay Arch Bishops, England voted no.

So really we are all rather a hotch potch, this suits me, I choose to answer to God not a queen or an Arch Bish

I just don't get it, I try to understand but so much doesn't make sense!

So true Bags - those who originate religions tend to have set broad moral guidelines like "love thy neighbour" not "thou shalt not use contraception"

ALL the requirements are made up, including the ten commandments. Religions are made up. By people (peeing, pooing, farting people) for people.

I thought that the Archbishop of Canterbury was the boss of The Anglicans? So are all C of E Anglicans? But obviously all Anglicans are not C of E ? Why are some converting to Catholicism? So if a married anglican bishop converts to catholicism can he still be a priest? In that case why doesn't the catholic church let priests marry? Its not in the bible is it that they should be celibate...isn't that a made up requirement?

My understanding is that Henry VIII declared himself Supreme Governor of the Church IN England, meaning that he still regarded the Church as part of the Catholic communion but not governed by the Pope. Not being a Church historian, I don't know when the Church OF England got this name, but I do remember my history teacher emphasising the distinction between IN and OF.

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"But they all still pee, poo and fart, no matter who they are."

I wonder, would we say that this is typical of the humour on Gransnet? Would almost be worth a separate thread to discuss it.

Question 1: IS there a supreme governor of the worldwide anglican network?

Question 2: Does it matter whether there is or not?

Well, those so-called "Christians" out in the Central African Republic certainly don't come under the remit of the Archbishop of Canterbury!

Anniebach I imagine we are talking about the bit set up by Henry V111.

annieb, who is? Genuine question.

Absent, I'm sorry but your posts can be a little bit ridiculous. I was simply talking about the hierarchy of the Christian Church here on earth.

The Pope is Pontiff of the worldwide RC Church , the queen is not supreme governor of the worldwide Anglican community

I absolutely love the "Orb" that was given to the queen for her great grandson Georgie Porgie. I can see him now playing catch with mummy on a blanket on the lawn............. Ouch