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EmilyGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 25-Sept-14 11:26:52

Do you believe in angels?

First-time novelist and Huffington Post blogger, Hattie Holden Edmonds tells us about an experience that made her question whether those uncanny coincidences in life might just be little miracles. A topic which she was inspired to explore further in her first novel, Cinema Lumiere.

Hattie Holden Edmonds

Cinema Lumiere

Posted on: Thu 25-Sept-14 11:26:52

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Hattie Holden Edmonds

"That first fizz of inspiration can come from anywhere, but for me there are several technicolour moments, that seem to be spotlighted in the run up to writing Cinema Lumière. One of the most extraordinary incidents took place over ten years ago, but even now, whenever I think about it, I feel a skitter of goosebumps across my skin...

‘Did that really just happen?’ I asked my friend Angelika as we sat on the bus, heading towards Kings Cross. We were both staring at each other, trying to find a rational explanation for something utterly irrational that had just happened.

Earlier that afternoon, Angelika and I, had been to the Tate Modern, to help take my mind, if only for an afternoon, off the recent death of my father from a stroke. Angelika had also lost a family member that year so perhaps naturally, our conversation as we’d stepped on the bus, turned to the possibility of life after death. Neither of us had very strong opinions on the subject and neither of us are religious.

We were the last passengers to board the bus and were sitting at the front on the ground floor, just by the luggage racks. As we rumbled off, we continued the conversation, but seconds later, without the bus having had a chance to stop again and let any other passengers on, we noticed an old man standing to our left, by the driver’s booth. He was dressed in an oddly old-fashioned three-piece suit made from Harris tweed. I knew this because my Dad had a thing about Harris tweed suits and as a child I loved going with him to his tailors.

"There's a part of me that believes that it was nothing less than a little miracle."


So it was the suit that I clocked first. Then I noticed that there was something sticking out of the man’s top jacket pocket, which I can only describe as an out-sized calling card. Short-sighted as I am, I could still make out what it said because the writing was in such bold print.

“Death is not the end, it is just the beginning.”

‘That is so bizarre,’ said Angelika, in answer to my initial question. But she wasn’t looking at me anymore.

I followed her gaze to where the man had been standing – but now there was only an empty space next to the driver’s booth. We scanned the rest of the ground floor but he wasn’t there either. The bus hadn’t stopped in the short distance since we first noticed him, so presumably he’d gone up to the top deck, although he must have been pretty nifty on his feet. I scooted upstairs to check, but he wasn’t there either.

Even though it took place over seven years ago, that afternoon has stuck in my mind with technicolour clarity. I’m still undecided about what exactly happened. Part of me wants to dismiss the encounter as simply a coincidence. And yet there’s another part of me, a part which lies a little deeper, that believes that the man who got on the bus with precisely the answer to mine and Angelika’s question poking out of his top pocket, was nothing less than a little miracle.

Have you ever experienced something similarly inexplicable? If so, I’d love to hear about it and how you chose to see it.

Hattie can be found spending most of her time writing, while running a ramshackle cinema in a fisherman's hut in Whitstable, and teaching meditation at a palliative care unit in Ladbroke Grove.
Her first novel, Cinema Lumiere, the story of a mysterious picture-house with only one seat, is out now. You can purchase a copy on Amazon.

By Hattie Holden Edmonds

Twitter: @gransnet

chumbelina Sat 28-Feb-15 15:42:43

Absolutely, no doubt in my mind at all! Because I believe, and other people know, I get given angels, so they are all over the house. I believe because I have seen one, and he never had wings, although am sure there are both winged and non-winged angels everywhere. I do believe we each have a guardian angel too, and that small inner voice that tells us when something is not right, is them helping us. I wear an angel necklace every day, it comforted when my mother died, it was a present from an elderly lady, and it comforts me still, years later.

axlefoley Fri 27-Feb-15 23:58:41

If you can prove it there is a million dollars with the James Randi foundation to be won.

Milly Thu 26-Feb-15 22:08:16

A friend who I hadn't seen for some years came to visit, and told me that she had become a Medium and we went o talking about this and that until she said it was difficult for her to concentrate as there was a male presence behind my chair - he was holding a rose and told her a special date had just passed and his picture was in my bedroom - not a photo but a different picture.

Two weeks earlier was the 2nd Anniversary of my husband's death and I had put a rose over the place where his Ashes were in the Remembrance Garden of our Church. In my bedroom was a pencil drawing done by his daughter (second marriage) many years ago.

My friend had come straight in to the lounge and no other part of my flat, so no way could she know of the photo, or the date or the rose.

Make of it what you will. I know he is here.

kate1947 Thu 19-Feb-15 19:14:16

Yes but angels come in many forms to help us, if we knew it. the main thing I was a true sceptic until the morning of my Mum's funeral and I woke to see her at the side of my bed, looking radiant and smiling! I got ready for the funeral with a smile on my face and was happy, it was as if she had come to show me that she was ok and happy, and I knew that without doubt, also I knew that it would be the last time that I would see her in this life, it was lovely

HattieHoldenEdmonds Wed 18-Feb-15 12:48:46

Wow. I am so blown away by all these brilliant stories. Having been a confirmed cynic up until I was 35, so many things have since convinced me that there is a much bigger picture to our lives than we might think. My first inkling of this was when a friend sent me to see a psychic (at the London College of Psychic Studies) to see if she could tell me what career would bring me the fulfilment I'd been craving for so long. The first thing the psychic asked me was : What did I do for my spiritual life? To which I answered 'nothing'. She then told me that it was important that I look into this other side of life, as my future career would be closely linked to it. I would, apparently, write novels which would be both funny and have a spiritual thread. I told her, grumpily, that I wasn't interested in writing fiction - and I wasn't particularly funny. To which she answered that events would conspire to put me in the right place at the right time so I could learn the right tools for this new career. A month later a friend suggested that I volunteer in the picture department for an afternoon a week at Comic Relief - which I did - and three months after that, out of the blue, I was offered the job of in-house comedy writer. I still have no idea why they thought of me, but I leapt at the chance and for the next three years I got to work with Richard Curtis, Steve Coogan, Sacha Baron Cohen and a whole heap of other comedians. It proved to be the best training ground I could have wished for. That first novel is now published - and selling (phew!) - and I have had so many gorgeous letters from readers telling me how the book has affected them (and made them laugh - again, phew!). I couldn't be happier with what I am doing now - or more grateful to that psychic who opened my eyes to the fact that life is a million times more mysterious and wondrous than I had ever imagined.

Misha14 Mon 16-Feb-15 11:38:11

My younger daughter when she was revising for her statistics exam the next day smelled her grandfather's tobacco. He had died a few years before this. Lucy was not good at maths but he was an excellent teacher. She passed.

catlat Tue 10-Feb-15 11:37:10

That's a lovely story, Emily, and one that gives one hope.

middleagespread Thu 05-Feb-15 19:29:05

10 years ago I moved into a 300 year old house and immediately felt a presence. Over the years I saw her looking at me but only in one room. I watched her come through an old doorway that we never opened. One day a wine glass, alone on a table, suddenly made a clinking noise and then the rim separated but after high tinkling noise settled down on the top of the now broken glass. Apparently the previous occupant, the lady of the house, had also been aware of her. My Grandson, at 7 years old, when we were playing Dominoes asked who she was and looked in her direction.
After a flood in 2012 the door was removed and the wall plastered. I have never seen her again.

Iam64 Wed 04-Feb-15 12:42:55

harrigran - my mum was in her 2nd week in a nursing home when she asked me if I could see the 'little people' on the floor. She confided she hadn't told the staff as she didn't want them to think she couldn't manage at home. That was the point at which I knew she would not be able to go home and that her body was wearing out. She had a major stroke 2 days later, from which she didn't recover.

Mum did believe in angels and in a laid back, church of england, pick n mix type god.

Bez Wed 04-Feb-15 07:46:48

My mother died unexpectedly and very fast at home - she stood up to go to bed and turned towards the door - looked ahead and said - I see you - I'm coming now - and dropped down dead. My poor father thought she had fainted and tried to revive her before going to get the next door neighbour who was a nurse. She rang me and also the services etc. Dad was convinced she saw someone whom he could not see. He died exactly three weeks later but peacefully in hospital.

Falconbird Wed 04-Feb-15 06:30:00

When I was 11 years old I hand meningitus and went into a coma. I remember traveling at high speed down a long tunnel. It was very noisy and there was a light at the end.

Years later when I was on the Underground for the first time the sound of the train was exactly the same as my tunnel experience.

When I was eleven I had never heard of traveling towards the light. I remember doctors and nurses calling me back and being reluctant to return.

absent Wed 04-Feb-15 05:47:43

My ma, in hospital with a bladder infection and a fever, told me how lovely the ward was with puppies and kittens. Having endured months the previous year when she raved about being killed and her hair being pulled out by individual strands, I let that one ride. Then, pointing, she suddenly said, "There goes the duck," and both Mr absent and I immedialtey looked where she had indicated.

Penstemmon Tue 03-Feb-15 21:55:40

My aunt told me she was fed up with the noisy children in her bathroom! She was delusional. On another occasion she thought she was on a coach tour of Yugoslavia and had a personal dresser. She did it was the care assistant.

No I do not believe in angels, Coincidence , yes!

Ana Tue 03-Feb-15 21:33:02

The relative I was thinking of saw mice - he would track their progress along the side of his bed and expect us to see them as well. And there was always a 'cabinet meeting' going on somewhere else on the ward...

annodomini Tue 03-Feb-15 21:30:30

The night before my uncle died, he was hallucinating about flies all over his bedroom ceiling. And he wasn't on morphine. He told my NZ sister about them on the phone.

Ana Tue 03-Feb-15 21:20:55

I agree with you both, harrigran and absent. Morphine, especially, can induce halucinations which are very real to the patient.

absent Tue 03-Feb-15 21:16:16

It is not always dead family and friends – or angels – that people see. I can recall hallucinating about a number of different things when I was in ICU and shot full of morphine. These included having the unalterable conviction that a new team of doctors was standing around my bed discussing the prospect of performing still more surgery on my already battered body. I saw them and I heard them but they didn't actually exist.

harrigran Tue 03-Feb-15 17:48:55

As a person dies the brain starts misfiring and along with drugs can cause the person to hallucinate. I have been with relatives in their last few days and they would stare into the distance and pluck at the air as if collecting objects. If it gives you comfort to believe in angels and ghosts coming to collect relatives then so be it but accept that the mind is a very powerful inventor, just look at dreams.

Soutra Tue 03-Feb-15 17:37:41

I hope I am allowed to voice a personal scepticism about angels, ghosts, psychics and paranormal phenomena. No offence to those of you who have experienced unusual events and I know there are stranger things in heaven and on earth Horatio,etc etc, but no, I cannot go along with wings and haloes, particularly as this image of angels is dictated by generations of artists and has no more foundation than a white Anglo-Saxon Jesus with brown hair or God with a long white beard.

sarahc446655 Tue 03-Feb-15 17:28:40

I am intuitive and have given many psychic readings to people in the past i.e.to a stewardess who I warned to leave her job because of a strong feeling of foreboding although I couldn't tell her why. She left and avoided going down with the plane - saved her but not much good to the people that died.

I used to think re-incarnation was what it was all about - but not now as I prefer, powerful, provable genetic inheritance. I have always distanced myself from what I called - The New Age movement - full of weirdos, people turning it into a religion and money grabbers and have no time for mumbo- jumbo i.e. seeing a notice on the counter of a mystical shop, saying goods cant be returned because of bad vibes - made me laugh.

It doesn't matter how pragmatic you are there are still things you cant explain - one morning recently I woke up, after sleeping alone, with three, bloodied scratch marks across my jaw - like a small fork-like instrument had been dragged across. I tried to do the same with my nails but they are too blunt - what does that tell us? that invisible things can make physical things happen, nothing new there. I had a similar experience in the past - waking up in the morning with a love-bite style bruise on my neck and on the inside of my knees on another occasion - sleeping alone (didn't expect anyone to believe me).

I used to ghost hunt and go into peoples house and sense what was happening - fascinating but not really proof of anything if I'd seen anything physical I would have run a mile - such is the normal fear factor. I still can't see why someone in ghost form would want to hang around in a house or something - maybe traumatic deaths have that effect.

As far as angels - when I was having chemo therapy I saw an angel walking along with their arm around another patients shoulder - the angel was about 7 foot tall with long fairish- red hair, straight parted in the middle, wearing a white round neck dress on the knee and huge white wings, bare legs and feet. I thought if angels were going to appear that would be a good situation. I also experienced an over-whelming urge to be able to heal people instantly, that I came across who were also going through the hell of cancer, why not, it all seemed so un-necessary - but never put it to the test.

This thing about ghosts appearing at the end of the bed - this could be because people go through the point of half awake half asleep (like when you wake up from a nightmare) and are possibly more receptive as different brain waves come into action for sleep.

bikergran Tue 03-Feb-15 09:54:41

Ruby I really would love to know..maybe his mum..

Falconbird Tue 03-Feb-15 09:43:09

When my poor DH was seriously ill in hospital - I was sitting by his bed with two of my sons. We had been told that my DH had weeks to live.

My eldest son stood up to go - and immediately sat down again. It was as if someone or something had pushed him back. He is a non believer but the look of surprise on his face told me that it was more than just a feeling that he shouldn't leave.

My DH passed away about an hour after that.

I will always remember the force that put my son back in his chair and the look of astonishment on his face. Was it divine intervention - who can tell.

When I was leaving the hospital - feeling devastated - I saw my mum and dad standing at the end of a corridor - they were smiling and beckoning to me. Tricks of the mind - I'm still not sure.

Elegran Tue 03-Feb-15 09:07:45

I have a cellar beneath my house. One day I unlocked the door and went in and was immediately sure, without knowing why, that there was a frightened animal trapped in there. I searched everywhere (It is full of junk so it took some doing) and eventually lifted an old-fashioned lawnmower to find a hedgehog hiding under it, which must have come in when the door was last open. Just before I lifted it I realised that I could smell fear. I could not have told you what terror smelt like, but I recognised it then, and I must have smelt it subliminally as soon as I entered.

Our senses are better than we realise, so some at least of these experiences of "just knowing" are due to our perceiving something and processing the information without our consciousness realising it.

Perhaps Grannyknot's mugger was perspiring with anxiety at the thought of his intentions, and releasing more adrenaline than usual, and it was detectable in his smell?

Grannyknot Tue 03-Feb-15 08:20:23

So perhaps intuition is a form of knowing and we can dispense with the inverted commas ...

feetlebaum Tue 03-Feb-15 08:18:35

Or you heard and saw marginal things that you didn't notice at a conscious level... I'm pretty sure that's how 'intuition' works.