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soontobe Sat 10-Jan-15 18:32:19

A thread if you want to ask me a question about christianity. Mine, or in general.

I am getting asked questions about my christianity across different threads.

So if you want to ask me a question, ask here.

If no one does, fine. Great.
But if you do in future, I suspect that gransnet would like it dealt with here rather than questions popping up on other peoples' threads, for the forseeable.
Thanks.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 12-Jan-15 10:35:55

He would be seen as a dictator. I don't think God uses a human voice. He has no human form. He is spirit. Speaks to us through our spirit.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 12-Jan-15 10:36:34

He is telling me to get up and stop being so bloody lazy.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 12-Jan-15 10:37:42

But son has told me to embrace staying in bed. Who to listen to? More anguished self searching.

Ana Mon 12-Jan-15 10:53:10

You mean Jesus? confused

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 12-Jan-15 10:55:04

No! He's not my son. confused

Ana Mon 12-Jan-15 10:57:23

Well, you didn't say it was your son...smile

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 12-Jan-15 11:04:05

Oh! Lol! grin

I'm out of bed anyway. grin

rosequartz Mon 12-Jan-15 11:38:54

Arise and go forth! smile

Perhaps God is within us (and Satan)
We needn't look too far
God = good
Devil = evil

Are the words similar in other languages?

Lilygran Mon 12-Jan-15 11:48:57

Some doctrines like predestination, original sin and the Immaculate Conception which some posters have problems with, arise from people at different times trying to understand concepts beyond understanding or beyond the understanding of people at the time they were developed. Trying to explain the inexplicable. And of course you can 'believe' facts. Not all facts are concrete and others we accept because they make sense, or appear to be true. And yes, who did light the touch paper for the Big Bang? The more scientists uncover, by trying to explain the inexplicable, the more the innate order of the universe appears.

Gerente Mon 12-Jan-15 12:56:02

I’m sorry Lily but that’s not quite true. In quantum mechanics we discover that the entire universe is actually a series of probabilities. Physics advances by accepting absurdities. That the sun is the centre of our universe surprised everybody back then. Quantum mechanics finds that particles can be in two places at once.

feetlebaum Mon 12-Jan-15 13:37:54

" The more scientists uncover, by trying to explain the inexplicable, the more the innate order of the universe appears." So, therefore God?

Hardly!

soontobe Mon 12-Jan-15 14:14:30

Sorry. Having a "busy" day today. Didnt mean to abandon this thread.

I have been thinking about souls and mansions jingl.
It too strikes me as odd that a soul is going to need a mansion.
I imagine a soul as something the size of say a pea.

Mishap - I think God tried not to be opaque in the Old Testament. But that didnt work, as in, people just ended up disobeying Him on such a large scale to the extent that there was barely a person left that was not doing evil.
So he had to send His son.
Which has worked better as there are people who worship up to now at least.

God lit the paper for the Big Bang grumppa, though I think that you would expect me to say that!

Mishap Mon 12-Jan-15 14:25:21

God in the OT was a pretty grim proposition. No wonder they disobeyed.

So he sent his son - who is his son? - how does he come to be so? - most religions say we are all the children of god.

The idea that the world was saved by the arrival of his son rings pretty hollow in this troubled world. Folks are still struggling to understand the meaning of life and their different interpretations are proving somewhat problematical and divisive.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 12-Jan-15 14:31:24

His son was God come to earth as a man. To reassure us. God is spirit. His spirit was in Jesus Christ. The three in one - God the Father,, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. They are all one. And perhaps a small part of the whole is in every one of us.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 12-Jan-15 14:33:10

The Ten Commandments of the Old Testament are pretty good rules for living. To be honest.

soontobe Mon 12-Jan-15 14:34:05

God in the OT certainly had a lot of rules. Something like 617 of them?!

Jesus is His son.
Yes, we are children of God. Jesus is the firstborn I think I am right in saying. We are brothers and sisters.

As regards different intreptations, my advice is the NRSV Bible [the one most used in church services], or the King James [personally can barely understand all the olde worlde language, but some people love it], or the Good News Bible is the easiest to understand.

soontobe Mon 12-Jan-15 14:35:31

I like your posts jingl.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 12-Jan-15 14:40:09

Thank you. smile

Eloethan Mon 12-Jan-15 14:47:34

Lilygran Are you saying that the writings regarding such things as creation of the universe, immaculate conception, original sin, Garden of Eden, etc., were used to symbolise things that were difficult to explain and are not to be taken literally? If so, surely there can be many interpretations of these writings and whatever interpretation you accept is a "belief" rather than a "fact"?

Lilygran Mon 12-Jan-15 16:28:14

The interpretation I accept is a truth in which I believe.

Ana Mon 12-Jan-15 16:36:16

Do you really think that each soul is allocated a mansion of its own in the afterlife, soontobe? Wouldn't that be a bit lonely? I'd have thought they'd have to share.

alex57currie Mon 12-Jan-15 16:40:19

The ball started rolling with a talking snake! The woman listened to this snake and ate what was forbidden. She then somehow convinced her partner to join her in this act. Both were perfect but their combined actions brings into question their intelligence; she believing a talking snake, and he not questioning either situation-duh! When confronted by their God, she blamed the snake for her wrongdoing. He blamed his God for giving him the woman who was too stupid to realise that snakes don't speak! They produce 2 sons. The next recorded sin was murder. The most heinous crime one human being can commit against another. And they say humans have gone downhill since! Poor humanity with such a bad beginning.

soontobe Mon 12-Jan-15 16:57:30

That is what I did think Ana. Until this thread! <giggles>
Doesnt seem quite right now does it?!

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 12-Jan-15 17:05:37

soontobe I think I love you. smile

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 12-Jan-15 17:06:44

I don't think you'll have any trouble getting through the eye of the needle.