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I think The books to go in the New Testament were chosen at the Council of Nicaea in ... 325AD. is not strictly true.

This has been widely reported as a fact and perpetuated in books such as The Da Vinci Code

michaeljkruger.com/ten-basic-facts-about-the-nt-canon-that-every-christian-should-memorize-8-the-nt-canon-was-not-decided-at-nicea-nor-any-other-church-council/

Perhaps another poster has more information.

X post, written before I saw Elegran's post

Well, that's killed that thread - and a few more today. Now how can I spend the rest of the day?

Elegran

Thank you Elegran, the first time I've ever seen the extract and certainly clears up the confusion I felt reading this thread!

@Soon - "The bible says that all scripture is inspired by God."

Well - it would say that, wouldn't it? Doesn't wash, I'm afraid - circular reasoning and all that. In fact I think it would qualify as begging the question.

I am not sure I would trust the site you quote rosequartz and Elegran any more than I would trust Wikipedia.

I had certainly been taught about Constantine and his political aims long before I knew of Dan Brown. I shall go off and do some more research.

Is that because it is not a religious source, rosequartz ? It is looking from outside the circle of the convinced- at the same evidence that is available to everyone.

If we only examine the thoughts of those who have already accepted the doctrines, we could miss sources and insights that the faithful have rejected.

Three, not four, synoptic gospels.

Is that because it is not a religious source, rosequartz ?
Sorry, a bit Elegran
I don't know why you asked me that question so can't reply to it. Perhaps I am being a bit slow tonight (more than usual I mean).

Who knows that what was taught about Constantine over the years is strictly true anyway? The more people research the more we learn, and sometimes what we think is a given is proved to be a falsehood, or at least a manipulation of the truth.

rosequartz You said you would not trust that source. I wondered if that was because it was a secular source and therefore could be biased? A religious source could be biased too.

A compassionate God? That’s a rotten joke
To play upon a hard pressed bloke.
But what if I’m wrong, and He’s really there?
Would he, I wonder, hear my prayer?

Would this listening God it please
To see me here upon my knees?
And may He then grant me my plea
To set my wife, my dear love, free?

I don’t expect that there’ll be a reply,
For above us, up there, is only sky.
And it’s me alone who’ll soothe her fears.
We’re on our own in this vale of tears.

Gerente, I don't know what is happening in yours and your wife's life just now, but it sounds from your post as if you are feeling very sad. Up there, in my mind too, is only sky. I hope you and your wife can gain comfort from each other. Gransnet is a good place to come as well, even if it's just to join a discussion or to have a look through the threads. to you and your wife.

Gerente - a poem from the heart. I hope that you can be the comfort for your wife that you wish to be.

Gerente hope this is just a poem to verbalise how you observe the plight of mankind, and that you're not actually facing a situation that you look at thro' a "vale of tears" ?

rosequartz You said you would not trust that source.

Elegran I think it was Gracesgran who said that, not me. Tue 13-Jan-15 18:12:55 I am not sure I would trust the site you quote rosequartz and Elegran any more than I would trust Wikipedia.

I am not sure I would trust the site you quote rosequartz and Elegran any more than I would trust Wikipedia.

Gracesgran

I suppose you could say that of any site I quote, that it could be reliable or unreliable, including the Bible.

Gerente. We can see your love and heartache from that poem.

I and other Christians can pray for you and your wife too. For the situation and for peace for you both.

Sorry, rosequartz I misread it.

Gerente, no answers, but and love to you both.

Elegran no worries as they say, easy to do.

Gerente and I hope you have someone who can share your troubles