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Anya Sun 30-Aug-15 14:47:08

Dr. Laura Slessinger is a well-known conservative talk show host. She has expressed very negative beliefs about homosexuality.

She has firmly supported and advocated biblical morality on her TV and radio shows. The following is a tongue-in-cheek letter seeking Dr. Laura's advice on applying biblical morality and religious duties in today's world. Its author is unknown.

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When people try to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to follow them:

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev.1:9).The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7.In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness (Lev.15:19-24).The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev.25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev.11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev.11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread cotton/polyester blend. He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them (Lev.24:10-16)? Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev.20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you.

Luckygirl Sat 05-Sept-15 16:41:16

As an aside (or is it?grin), I have several vicar friends who are lots of fun - except for one, who drives me nuts. She speaks to everyone as though they are needy, and her Christian charity is just what's required - a sort of over-sympathetic and ultimately patronising tone of voice. It is totally annoying and completely unnecessary. Grrrr.

soontobe Sat 05-Sept-15 16:40:08

In fact you didnt imply. You told me to tell you. And I think you will agree that that is a pretty big tell.

soontobe Sat 05-Sept-15 16:38:04

Your post of Friday 10.32am implied otherwise.
You asked me to tell you why your husband and babies died.

Anniebach Sat 05-Sept-15 16:31:06

soon, this was a discussion on interpretations of the bible , I didn't ask for help and I don't have a need, if I did I would go to the boss , I am sorry you misunderstood, buy time spent in prayer is never wasted

Shazmo24 Sat 05-Sept-15 15:45:20

There is a difference between being "religious" & being a "christian"
I'm a christian & as such I read my Bible (most of the time) & pray.
I look at everythig in context and how it applies to the world in which we live today.
These "laws" were written for a specific period in time.

I had to smile at your letter xx

soontobe Sat 05-Sept-15 15:25:21

Also, I am very mindful that there are posters who think I answer too much probably, so now I am getting told the exact opposite, by someone I must have replied to 20 times yesterday.

soontobe Sat 05-Sept-15 15:21:55

From Anniebach.

The rest of you may have had valid reason, as I did purposely not answer others' questions yesterday, as I thought[obviously very wrongly] that Anniebach had need.

soontobe Sat 05-Sept-15 15:18:49

It was the "you avoid giving answers" bit.

Alea Sat 05-Sept-15 15:10:50

Anniebach's question:
soon, you avoid giving answers , how are Christians blessed? don't need a list which would take all day try three or four examples
Luckygirl and I both asked the same thing without any success.
This is getting blown up out of all proportion, soontobe
- what is the problem with such a simple question? It is not intrusive or personal after all. confused

soontobe Sat 05-Sept-15 14:24:20

I went completely out my way for you yesterday. To the extent of not answering other posters' posts.
Because I thought the situation waranted it. What a mug I was.

I apologise to the other posters. I wont be doing that again. Anyone who still wants their posts answered, please feel free to repost.

I probably misread Anniebach's need.

Anniebach Sat 05-Sept-15 14:21:23

I think you put it really well Lucky and with kindness

soontobe Sat 05-Sept-15 14:20:08

No, I was giving.
You may not have realised that.
I spent several hours looking things up, praying, thinking etc. I had to ask God for more strength about it.

It was more than sharing. A lot more.

Even if you didnt realise that, that still does not excuse your behaviour you saying to me this morning that I avoid giving answers.

Luckygirl Sat 05-Sept-15 14:05:31

Annie - you put it much better than I.

Anniebach Sat 05-Sept-15 14:01:49

soon, you claim you were giving, no, you were sharing as I was and all who posted

soontobe Sat 05-Sept-15 13:57:29

I will try not to be suspicious of other posters.

soontobe Sat 05-Sept-15 13:56:12

Lets move on. These things happen.

soontobe Sat 05-Sept-15 13:53:09

I thought I was giving a lot to a fellow human being.
And yes, if I help people along the way to be more Christ like, which helps all of us, then good?

Perhaps I was naive, but I have never had the experience that happened to me this morning happen before.

I am shocked, especially as it came from a Christian.

I am trying not to make a big deal of it. We all live and learn.

I am trying to say God's beliefs of certain situations. I repeatly tell people to read the Bible for themselves. That is so important.

I now feel I need to ask posters who ask me a question, whether, well I am not sure what.

I dont like having that feeling.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 05-Sept-15 13:18:14

That's good durhamjen. It was the ones sleeping under the collonade that we saw, and shocked us. Has he been shamed into building it?

Not sure about taking them to see the Turin Shroud. Hope those visits ended up with a good sit-down meal.

Luckygirl Sat 05-Sept-15 13:01:30

O heavens soon - I do find it very hard not to be exasperated by your posts, because the subliminal message throughout them is that you are doing everyone a favour by opening their eyes to your beliefs. "...how much effort I put in for just her yesterday."

I have to be honest and say that it is this sort of self-satisfied attitude that puts many off religion.

Sorry if that feels insulting, but you need to bend a little and put a toe in the world of those who are not so "blessed". [groan].

durhamjen Sat 05-Sept-15 12:22:44

www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/06/11/francis-to-open-a-30-bed-homeless-shelter-near-the-vatican/

For you, jingl.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 05-Sept-15 12:18:24

Well, that's something. Quite right too. Hope they feed 'em as well. Thanks dj.

durhamjen Sat 05-Sept-15 11:59:47

Jingl, I read somewhere that the Vatican has put up showers and toilet blocks and provided clean clothes for the homeless in the square outside the Vatican.

The homeless got moved on from outside St Pauls.

soontobe Sat 05-Sept-15 11:42:46

How on earth can I be accused of avoiding giving answers when I spend so much time doing so. And people complain about me taking over a thread or somesuch.

Even I am not on gransnet 24/7
And even I am allowed to not reply to all questions put to me. Everyone does that. And sometimes the questions are answered further down the thread.

I am hurt that Anniebach could accuse me of avoiding answers. It could hardly have escaped her notice how much effort I put in for just her yesterday. I thought I was doing her a favour. The joke is on me. I was an idiot but didnt know it.

Anniebach Sat 05-Sept-15 11:38:45

Jingle , that god for your sense of humour, you have caused me to laugh , I don't think for one moment I would need a long spoon with you

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 05-Sept-15 11:34:46

I'll help you Anniebach. smile if you've got a long spoon