There is definitely no loving God. Fact.

Amen to that!!

Definitely.

because your post would seem to agree with me but disagree at the same time annie.
You agree with me that it must be man causing all this hatred and killing in the Middle East - which was going on in Old Testament times too before 'the West' existed.

Your hypothesis is that God cannot be blamed for the evil done by man, even killing of little children. However, he does nothing to save them, so my hypothesis is that if he is supposed to be 'a loving God' he would save innocent little children, therefore how can he exist?

Sorry, jingls it took me so long to post I didn't see yours in between.
Tablet will be thrown out of the window having been jumped on first! Slow, slow, slow

So which children does he save Jamila? Does he send down lighting bolts to kill one side only , does he kill all the adults and so leave a country of children . I am not a God Is On Our Side believer , too many wars have been carried out in this belief

Google "Why does God not save innocent children". Lots of interesting reading.

God gave us free will, if he interfered all the time what free will would we have.

Exactly practical, I agree although it's probably a simplistic view in theology terms

Free will- for 3 year olds!?! What would that poor child have done for free will? Please- tell me what was God's purpose in making him suffer so? Pray tell.

How ill you use your free will to save little children then? And do you save only Christian ones- of your denomination. Is the sufferring of a child from a jungle tribe or Muslim less or more important. Free will for little children ... how, why...

if anyone made a child pay with their suffering for my failings- I'd cut them into little pieces, slowly ...

I so wish I'd never started this thread - in October last year.

Are people so short of things to occupy them that they have to resurrect threads long dead and forgotten?

And have they no taste? Have they read the original post? Is it pure thickness?

Please don't put words in my mouth granjura, I made no mention of religious discrimination or making children suffer. Free will refers to the people inflicting the crimes.

I just asked - not 'put words in your mouth'...

my response was to practical who very deliberately chose to re-open this thread, which she must have had to deliberately search for- and the question remains - how does free will relate to little children?

Why has this thread been revived? I believe it was started as a very understandable reaction to a shocking tragedy, not as the prelud to some esoteric religious or philosophical debate.
Oops I see jingl beat me to it.
Nuff said

So sorry Jinglebellsfrock didn't realise the forum was for members of Mensa only, don't think war crimes are a matter of taste

I assume anyone resurrecting this thread will have read my original post. Anyone who couldn't tell the sadness and despair I was feeling at that time is definitely lacking in something. And not necessarily a high IQ.

Thank you Alea.

OK, Christinefrance, are you on a challenge to upset the greatest number of people in the shortest possible time or what?
#maybeitishalfterm

Yup

Fine if that's what floats your boat. Personally I think there is a name for that.

If you can't stand the heat etc. However I apologise for a lapse in the milk of human kindness dept. We all see things differently and not everyone has a popular opinion.

Seems strange that a few 'new' members seem to appear out of the blue- re-open long dead threads just to stir. Will give them a wide berth.

'granjura' as you said I am a 'new' member whatever '' means
I didn't realise I couldn't open any thread, because other sites I've been on most members were helpful and not one bounced on me for not knowing.

Of course you can open old threads- I just wonder what your motivation is- as you obviously and carefully searched for them in past history.

!!