God and war

Everyone gets judged whitewave. I am not sure if that answers your question or not.

TriciaF. Yes there are other spiritual beings, both good and bad.

Jews and Christians worship the exact same God. To the letter. They just dont believe that Jesus came.

Can anyone tell me what happens to female martyrs? We know that males get rewarded with all sorts of disgusting things, what about females?

At least one of my daughters will be doing just that. [proud].

There is only one Christian God. (The one we should be at church worshipping at the moment, if we weren't such lazy gits)

No soon, you and I do not mean the same thing

Jews Christians and Moslems worship the same one God, so I've always thought. But in different ways. And in their mythology recognise the existence of other spiritual beings.
As opposed to many other religions who worship many different Gods.
Who can say who is correct?

There are gods and God.
I am pretty sure you and I mean the same thing actually.

I think we are just using words, but mean the same thing.
You can correct my wording if you want to.

Thou shalt have no other Gods but me

False Gods are not God
[this is a conversation followed on from another thread that is not in the religious topic].

The extreme Moslems have followed in Paul's footsteps although Mohammad raised the status of women compared to what it had been. The fact is that in every religion, after the passage of centuries, we lose sight of the basic message, and also some of the teachings or practices become outdated.

I have recently read two novels by Naomi Alderman, one called Disobedience, the other called The Liar's Gospel. They both have a religious theme and I thought they were very thought provoking as well as a good read.

The original sin bit was decided back in Genesis I would have thought. And thinking about it, right through the Bible over thousands of years.

St Paul regarded women as the instigators of original sin, inherently immoral, a temptress of men, and to be subordinate to men at all times. There were the odd exceptions, but even they were to be regarded with reservation. In other words, Paul was a chauvinist, even for those days.

As far as I know there is nothing in the Bible to say or even hint at that.

The BIble does say he was the worst sinner ever, before he became a Christian.

In no way do I think he disliked women.

Anything faith related just becomes a boring argument that neither side can prove one way or the other, the Bible (I went to a Convent as a boarder) both old and new treatments prove absolutely nothing. There is no one more zealous than a convert , look.at Thomas Becket. This would explain St Paul, who could have been gay, explaining his obvious dislike of women.

eye for an eye stuff I will post about tomorrow hopefully.

absent. Yes.

The bottom line of any religious argument must hinge on the existence of God, otherwise how can anything be attributed to him?

Yes

You can quote the Bible uphill and down dale, backwards and forwards till you're blue in the face, but without proof of the almighty's existence it's all pretty pointless

No. It is faith related, not proof related.

There was no argument, soon quoted from the OT and I quoted from the NT, just trying to explain to soon that much in the OT which is at times violent is not in the teachings of Christ and it is on Christ's teachings , death and resurrection that Christianity is based .

It occurs to me that St Paul was a kind of extremist. First, he was extremely zealous in his persecution of Christians, then equally zealous in his takeover of burgeoning Christianity. (He also exhibited great pride in his Roman citizenship.) Certainly, James the Greater was no match for him.

The bottom line of any religious argument must hinge on the existence of God, otherwise how can anything be attributed to him? You can quote the Bible uphill and down dale, backwards and forwards till you're blue in the face, but without proof of the almighty's existence it's all pretty pointless.

soon has given her opinions on so many threads it's hard to keep track - I think the forgiving 7 or 70 times 7 was on another of them, not this one...

Testament

Where was soon debating the existence or otherwise of God? I thought the discussion was about whether 'an eye for an eye' from the Old Testament, or forgiving 7x7 times from the New Tetament, was the subject of the argument.

You know what, nigglynellie? I think you are right.