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same sex marriage-in church

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paddyann Mon 21-May-18 22:07:28

The Church f Scotland general Assembly voted today t allow same sex marriages in church .Is this "moving with the times" a way to increase attendances and membership of the church? Or a step to far .In my circle of friends are several gay couples who work in the church and for the church ,most have married but by regitrars and I knw they will be delighted that the church will at last bless their union.

pollyperkins Tue 22-May-18 16:24:45

Against nature? But homosexuality has occurred in all cultures recoeded over 100s of years . And it occurs in animals too. You shouls have seen my DC s pet rabbits (both males) at it!!

Bridgeit Tue 22-May-18 16:23:34

Nature consists of asexual, bi sexual, self reproduction,incest etc etc . Nothing new under the sun it’s all been done before. Except of course medical advancement ,we now have the knowledge to understand & accept so much more about ourselves as a species, surely that’s a good thing. Live & let live & try not to hurt anyone along the way.

Rosina Tue 22-May-18 16:18:30

It must be difficult for those who are fundamentalists to read in their bible that homosexuality is an 'abomination', and then be pressured into having same sex marriages in church. I don't know what the answer is here; Jesus seemed to have such amazing tolerance, love and compassion for those outside of the conventional in society, which attitude is rarely displayed by the church.

Madgran77 Tue 22-May-18 16:12:50

Lioness68 ...dear me!

GabriellaG Tue 22-May-18 16:12:16

I'm not an advocate of same sex marriage, indeed, I think the whole scene is against nature.

Madgran77 Tue 22-May-18 16:11:03

In my post re Catholic Church I meant one member of a family is a Catholic and others are not!

Bridgeit Tue 22-May-18 15:58:56

Yes Varian , I agree, I suppose it all goes back to the Garden of Eden, Poor Old Eve she was to take the blame, nothing much has changed!

hicaz46 Tue 22-May-18 15:53:02

Oh dear Lioness how sad are you? I have been in a same sex relationship for the last 25 years and my relationship is neither disgusting or perverted. I have been married and have 2 children an 5 grandchildren. I am now in a civil partnership, but have no desire myself to be married again.

varian Tue 22-May-18 15:47:52

It has always seemed to me that religions (almost all religions) appear to have an unhealthy obsession with sex. Some religions insist on celibacy not just for priests, monks, nuns but for ordinary unmarried folk. Why?

GrauntyHelen Tue 22-May-18 15:35:06

Oh I'd not heard but delighted with that news LOVE is LOVE and as I heard a church member who is Lesbiaan say recently why should she be refused a church wedding when she is the church when anyone who is straight can come in off the parish streets and be married !

maryeliza54 Tue 22-May-18 15:33:07

But they have to be celibate if gay ( or say the are)

Anniebach Tue 22-May-18 15:31:29

Untill last November our Anglican Church had a gay priest , he was here for quite a few years

Coconut Tue 22-May-18 15:16:21

I am an Atheist, and I believe that love is love, whoever it is between. People should be free to marry whoever they wish and as others have said, there is not enough love in this world, that’s for sure ....

maryeliza54 Tue 22-May-18 15:01:01

Not slll churches are homophobic - some welcome gay priests and perform gay marriages - and then there’s our wonderful CofE

muffinthemoo Tue 22-May-18 14:55:24

maryeliza, thank you.

jusnoneed Tue 22-May-18 14:53:43

It would probably be the proof of identity that would be the hardest thing these days lollee! After all anyone can get hold of a birth certificate. What do they accept now?
I just don't see the need for the swearing oath bit, that proves nothing. Fill in the forms, put up the banns if needs be, sign the book, cough up the money and get out of there would be my ideal wedding lol.

minxie Tue 22-May-18 14:48:10

Nothing wrong with loving someone And wanting to marry, but how for the life of me I can’t imagine why a gay couple would want to marry in church when they are so inherently homophobic. I speak as a mother of a gay son

maryeliza54 Tue 22-May-18 14:36:58

There are marriages in which rape and domestic violence take place regularly and there are gay relationships which are loving and caring with each putting the other first - I know which type is disgusting and perverted

Theoddbird Tue 22-May-18 14:35:59

I think it is wonderful

maryeliza54 Tue 22-May-18 14:33:05

As long as the act of sex is genuinely consensual and private, why should it matter who does what to whom?

henetha Tue 22-May-18 14:30:03

Love is not disgusting or perverted, no matter what form it takes. Gay people should have absolutely the same rights as others. Gay couples have the same chance of raising children successfully, or unsuccessfully, as heterosexual couples.

Bridgeit Tue 22-May-18 14:25:09

Is it the love or the sex that disgusts you Lioness?

Lioness68 Tue 22-May-18 14:22:12

I am totally opposed to same sex couples in any way, shape or form. I am an atheist not a religious person. It is disgusting and perverted.

As for them having children - it takes a man and a woman to produce a child.

lollee Tue 22-May-18 14:03:19

You can do that with a will, probably cheaper too.

henbane Tue 22-May-18 14:00:05

I'm with Maryeliza on this one. If marriage & civil partnership are really the same, why did many same sex couples choose to convert their partnerships to marriage?

I don't want another marriage; I don't want to change my name; I do want a partnership to give financial protection when one of us dies.