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Does God exist? I'd like to be clear in my mind

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Grammaretto Mon 30-Sep-19 07:09:05

The unanswerable question Hettymaud.
I used to ask why are we here? How we came about, seems easier somehow.
Some say there's no God. What's the alternative?
God is life? God is the power to create which is in every living thing.
God is everything and everywhere.
The everyday miracles such as how i can tap a lump of flesh on a screen and seconds later you can read my mind.
Faith in God whatever you believe is valid if it helps you on your journey.

rosecarmel Mon 30-Sep-19 05:54:32

The problem people have with God is their idea of God, that God is separate instead of ever present- God gets filtered out of their lives because they believe God couldn't possibly have anything to with atrocities- So when atrocities take place people feel abandoned by God as a result of believing God to be a specific thing rather than everything- And when their idea of God fails them, they lose faith- But only faith in a God they failed to understand from the beginning-

Nothing is separate- Its all a delicate balance that humans struggle to understand- There is no end to the universe- So why place limitations on God- From the big bang to the big crunch, God is there- The alpha, the omega-

gt66 Mon 30-Sep-19 05:24:04

I too believe everything can be explained by evolution. The extremely slow evolving of simple bacteria to the vast array of life on earth today, but I can also see how primitive man (the world over) believed there was some kind of higher being. They would've seen and heard everthing weather can throw at us; thunder, lightning, wind, rain, snow or relentless heat and seen stars, planets and more in the sky above them, so easy to see how the belief there was 'a God up there' controlling it, came about.

annep1 Mon 30-Sep-19 04:26:40

Last evening I wandered along a quay close to where I live just before sunset. I played some favourite hymns on my phone (I was completely alone!) including The Day Thou gavest Lord is ended.
I too got that feeling of awe as I looked at the changing sky and watched the waves splashing on the shore. There is no doubt in my mind that it was created and I believe that human beings are different to all other animals.
But I have no explanation for suffering. Sometimes I find it hard to have faith in the God of the Bible. And yet I know some very intelligent people who believe totally with no doubt! I live in hope that all will be revealed some day.
My husband a former Christian believes everything can be explained by evolution.

paddyann Sun 29-Sep-19 23:39:17

I understand that SirChenjin I was raised a Catholic in a mixed marriage ,went on to marry a protestant and raised my children in the church of Scotland to keep my FIL happy ,the old " if you take his name you have to take his religion" west of Scotland thing

.I dont believe in a god ,any god.I cant imagine any being who had the power to make life if not good at least easier for millions could sit back and watch the suffering,the poverty ,the pain that goes on every day in some peopsles lives .Simplistic? Maybe but if I had that power I wouldn't watch children starve or live in horrific circumstances as they do.I do go to church ,with my MIL when she visits.I am good friends of 40 years with the minister who is wondeful man ,he doesn't ever try to convert me to his way of thinking and for that I applaud him.I also find it difficult to understnd that he can excuse HIS god for the mess he has allowed the people of the world to make .Sometimes I would like to be the child who believed the fairytales I was told about the caring ,loving father in heaven...but how can he possibly be the same fierce fiery god of retribution some minsters preach on Sundays /

SirChenjin Sun 29-Sep-19 23:02:13

I’m an atheist. I believe in the power of love, community and respect for our friends, family and neighbours. I believe that we’re attuned to nature and to our environment and that came about through evolution and not through the work of gods. When I do very occasionally go to church I don’t feel close to a god because I obviously don’t believe in them, but I feel a connection to other people, both in the present and of those who have been in that building before me - all of us living our small lives but all connected in peace. That sense of being is what makes me feel whole.

I’m probably making no sense whatsoever but ultimately it doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks about whether there are or aren’t gods - it’s what you believe and what makes sense to you.

Gonegirl Sun 29-Sep-19 22:50:07

Sorry I missed off your capitals. HettyMaud.

Gonegirl Sun 29-Sep-19 22:48:28

I think a lot of people feel like that hettymaud. I've been a Christian all my life up until the last few years. World events, and events in this country, make it hard to understand.

But then, just as think your faith has completely gone out of the window never to return, someone seems to speak to you. And it feels like God. Totally confused

Many would say that my generation were brainwashed. Who knows? But it's good when, briefly, you feel close to what you so much need.

HettyMaud Sun 29-Sep-19 22:39:34

I'm definitely not a Christian though no doubt a man did exist who perhaps was able to do things that could not be well explained. If God exists then what made God? I do feel in complete awe when I look at nature and the more I study it the more amazing it is. How can it all have come about? Yet there is so much suffering in the world. Why? I love going to churches and yet sometimes feel I'm singing and speaking words which I don't really believe and yet I enjoy it and feel close to God. Most people I'm close to are atheists but I'm not sure what I am. I'm so confused.