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Kill Coronovirus with Prayer

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NannyC2 Tue 10-Mar-20 14:27:29

Turn to prayer for protection against the present virus. There are prayers for pestilence used in the past. Trust in the Lord.
In a letter from Padre Pio to the seers of Garabandal, he gave the following advice ...." Pray and make others pray because the world is at the beginning of its perdition. They don’t believe in you or in your talks with the Lady in White; they’ll do it when it's too late."

So, many are unaware that we are all moving towards a
personal encounter with God.
A warning will come first from which many will die - not from anything physical but from emotion within the heart as the inner warning, felt by everyone, will be a time when each person sees before them, the good and the evil they have committed in their lives. The realization of what they have done will be just too much to bear for many.
At the outset, a sign will appear in the sky which will be alike to 2 comets crashing.

On the 29th of March 2020 there will be a re-dedication of England to Mary.
In 1381, England was dedicated to Mary by King Richard II and was 'set apart for her among the nations. This year, the Christians of England are called to make a personal dedication to Mary, taking up her example as Christ’s first disciple.
History shows us that when the people pray a surrender to God’s will for their lives, society is transformed. By taking up this personal dedication in 2020, you can be a part of the renewal of this nation, drawing ourselves closer to the will of our loving God, through Mary.

People have turned away from God .....but it is not too late.
As a Christian I have to try to help people turn back to God. There are those who will not listen ....for many reasons, but we cannot give up the fight to save others.
God Bless and protect you.

endlessstrife Wed 11-Mar-20 12:53:01

Callistemon read about it in Revelation.

Marydoll Wed 11-Mar-20 12:16:29

NannyC2, on reflection I apologised later for my choice of language, so you are a bit late with your reprimand.

However, at least one poster is considering not donating to Mary's meals after reading your OP and associating the charity with your beliefs and that is one too many.
I will stress again, Mary's Meals helps everyone, regardless of creed.

I donate to and have raised funds for Mary's Meals on a regular basis, so I do not need to be told how they operate.
However, I do not preach and broadcast what I do on a public forum to others. There is no merit in that.
We don't all need approbation and feel the need to resort to broadcasting to the world what good people we are.

I suspect your intentions were good and you were trying to raise their profile, but it has backfired.

NannyC2 Wed 11-Mar-20 11:52:47

Marydoll......your comment......"I'm really annoyed that the OP has damaged the reputation of Mary's Meals with their comments".

I was actually praising the work of Mary's Meals. Someone asked for an example of where something good was being done. I have actually stayed at Craigwell Lodge where this good work began. I wrote an article a few years back about a dear lady, now in her nineties, who collected items for the back packs, storing them in sacks ready for collection and shipment overseas.
Instead of buying each other presents at Christmas in our Prayer Group - we contribute a donation to Mary's Meals.

The bottom line is, that prayer is answered for those who believe in it. Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life" and he doesn't want us to sit quietly saying nothing, but to spread His good news of Salvation, loving one another as we do so.
I arrange and do visits to the elderly and sick in Care Homes and their own homes. To see their smiles when they are able to chat to someone and thank you for visiting, is deeply humbling. We do not preach to them, we simply meet them where they are in their lives. Along with various training courses, I have had training with those with dementia who also need our love and care in their difficulties.

This is my last comment - I know many may believe or not believe, and as I said before, that is their choice, but, the most important thing is to love one another.

Luckygirl Wed 11-Mar-20 10:12:20

I agree with momb that seeking to find a way to help everyone around us in this situation is what we should be doing - but I do not pray for guidance about this, firstly because I would have no idea to whom I was praying, and secondly because I have no idea how this being might reply.

I do find the OP terrifying - that people can have such blind unthinking faith, picking and choosing their bits of their holy book to suit their opinions fills me with horror.

Kindness is all that matters. We are faced with an international crisis that very much relates to how ways of living have evolved amongst the human population - but rather than see it is the retribution of a cruel divine being, it is a chance to rethink how we live - hurtling round the planet and jettisoning self-reliance, polluting the planet in a myriad of ways - so much that we need to rethink.

I do not think that praying will get us out of this mess - serious reflection and new approaches to how we live is more likely to help.

Sussexborn Wed 11-Mar-20 10:03:49

I would hate to think that children will go to bed hungry or literally starve because posters takes offence at another’s rather bizarre post! Even if there is a religious element to Mary’s Meals at least some of the children will survive long enough to mature and make their own minds up!

Chestnut Wed 11-Mar-20 09:47:43

vampirequeen is Satan all that bad
Er, yes. No-one could argue there is good and there is evil. We see man committing great acts of evil all the time so can you really question whether these things are 'bad' of course they are. But is it just their own choice or is there a force of evil which moves them? Just as there is a force of good which inspires people to do great acts of goodness and kindness? If so then this is what we know as God and Satan.

Callistemon Wed 11-Mar-20 09:39:00

What happens to those who doubt, then, or do not believe? They just end up feeding this earth?
I don't mind that, it needs all the help it can get at the moment.

endlessstrife Wed 11-Mar-20 09:27:20

vampire God doesn’t want us as pets. He needed Satan to bring us to the point where we would choose. Everything is in His plan. This life is a rehearsal for those who believe.

Marydoll Wed 11-Mar-20 09:07:54

I shouldn't have used the word damage, in my comment about Mary's Meals, I should have said caused people to question whether they should continue to support Mary's meals.

We have religious freedom in this country and the OP has every right to evangelise, but I think this poster has not achieved what they set out to do, in fact quite the opposite. sad

Marydoll Wed 11-Mar-20 08:58:49

mumofmadboys, thanks I like that. smile

mumofmadboys Wed 11-Mar-20 08:56:28

I like the motto 'Pray to God but continue to row to the shore'

AnnyNanny Wed 11-Mar-20 08:43:59

Okay, is I'm not a Christian so what? In fact, I consider myself an atheist and this sounds like a huge nonsense to me.

Wheniwasyourage Wed 11-Mar-20 08:31:21

Exactly what Marydoll said.

Mary's Meals is a simple but very effective charity, and it is a shame if people are put off it by the (perfectly legal) views of a supporter. I think you would find a range of views among the supporters of any charity, so please continue your support, Eglantine21.

Marydoll Wed 11-Mar-20 08:05:45

Eglantine, I'm sorry this thread has you doubting the work of Mary's Meals. It is a wonderful charity, who support everyone, regardless of faith and beliefs, no indoctrination.
I'm really annoyed that the OP has damaged the reputation of Mary's Meals with their comments.

I never usually respond to religious posts on GN, as my faith is personal and private.
However, I have to say that not all Catholics are religious zealots, the OP is an exception in my opinion. I have never come across anyone like this.
Many of us live our faith quietly, respecting all other faiths and non believers, and as intelligent people continue to question our faith.
Prayer will not cure the Coronovirus, research, knowledge and people being responsible will.

This has to be one of the strangest and disturbing posts I have read on GN. confused

vampirequeen Wed 11-Mar-20 07:11:39

Is Satan all that bad? He used to be God's best mate....see Job. He only became 'evil' when he and God fell out and there was a battle in Heaven (according to the story). History is written by the victor so maybe Satan's just had a bad press.

Think about the Adam and Eve story. God wanted to keep them in ignorance i.e. he didn't want them to develop. Perhaps, rather than being evil, Lucifer simply felt that it wasn't right to keep them in ignorance. How would the human race develop if they didn't have certain knowledge. So he gave them the knowledge they needed. God wanted to keep humans as pets. Lucifer wanted to give them the knowledge to develop and grow in their own right.

Fairy story? Perhaps but just as accurate as the Bible version.

Dec46 Wed 11-Mar-20 00:18:43

I'm putting my faith in NHS and hope it gets us through the coming months without asking how much praying we've done!

DillytheGardener Wed 11-Mar-20 00:06:25

Padre Pio was debunked as being a fraud, faking the stigmata that he was canonised for. Good grief!

Chestnut Tue 10-Mar-20 23:51:01

Eloethan don't you rather think the malevolent force that is worshipped much more now is the force of evil, not God?

Hetty58 Tue 10-Mar-20 23:49:03

What a complete load of old codswallop! I can't believe that anyone bothered posting it!

Chestnut Tue 10-Mar-20 23:48:51

Eloethan asks why will God finish the world, well there's a story there! You need to study the Bible for the answer to that. God is not evil, the force of evil that we call Satan is evil.

Esspee Tue 10-Mar-20 23:48:38

Words fail me!

Eloethan Tue 10-Mar-20 23:40:31

I find this OP presumptuous, sanctimonious and, to be honest, utter rubbish.

And God will "finish the world" will he/she/it? Why would such a malevolent force be loved and worshipped?

Callistemon Tue 10-Mar-20 23:11:18

Mary Magdalene is known as the first disciple of Christ though, is she not?

NannyC2 Tue 10-Mar-20 23:09:18

Good evening Callistemon. Yes, I did mean the Virgin Mary was the first disciple of Jesus.
She was the first evangelizer and the first disciple of her Son because she was the first to believe in and follow him.

grannyactivist Tue 10-Mar-20 22:37:42

Eglantine21 please don't be put off from your support of Mary's Meals. Here is their Statement of Values and I hope it will reassure you - I'd especially like to draw your attention to the last sentence: It is also a work that consists of, respects and reaches out to people of all faiths and none.