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Not to Be Served , but to Serve.

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Caleo Mon 08-May-23 10:09:33

That is the message of the church service of the Coronation. It's also the core of Chivalry which at its best is an arm of the Christian message.

fancythat Wed 10-May-23 17:52:10

Hithere

Isn't nhs on a crisis? Less money on education?
Meanwhile, there is a coronation - those funds have much better purposes

I read that the entire cost of the Coronation would fund the NHS for 5 hours.
I dont know how true that is.

Anniebach Wed 10-May-23 17:54:53

Yes Diana said much !

Smileless2012 Wed 10-May-23 18:01:23

Really fancythatshock just shows how expensive the NHS costs to run.

fancythat Wed 10-May-23 18:09:32

Just did the maths myself.
Using google figures.
It appears to be correct.

Smileless2012 Wed 10-May-23 18:16:42

I had no idea that the NHS costs so much fancythat no wonder it's often described as a bottomless pit.

fancythat Wed 10-May-23 18:25:16

I had no idea either.

Elegran Wed 10-May-23 19:20:33

Callistemon21

If I were King or Queen I'd have a weekly audience with my elected Prime Minister which is what the Head of a Constitutional Democracy does.

I thought the late queen did that, and I assumed that Charles would continue the practice.

Callistemon21 Wed 10-May-23 19:26:17

Elegran

Callistemon21

If I were King or Queen I'd have a weekly audience with my elected Prime Minister which is what the Head of a Constitutional Democracy does.

I thought the late queen did that, and I assumed that Charles would continue the practice.

Yes, he will.

I'm not sure some people understand what a Constitutional Monarchy is, though.
We do not have an Absolute Monarchy in this country.

Elegran Wed 10-May-23 19:28:25

Why complain that as Charles is divorced he shouldn't be head of the C of E?

It has always been possible for a couple to separate and live apart as though they were not married. Divorce is just a way to do that as a permanent legality.

What was not accepted by the church until recently was to marry another while the first spouse was still alive. Charles didn't remarry until well after his divorced wife had died.

Smileless2012 Wed 10-May-23 19:34:04

Yes and that was 18 years ago Elegran which shows how things have progressed.

lemsip Wed 10-May-23 19:44:12

copied and pasted

Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles will apologise for their sins and wickedness and ask for forgiveness at their marriage ceremony, 34 years and two failed marriages after they first fell in love.

But it is a significant move by the couple who chose a forceful passage of penitence from the traditional 1662 Book of Common Prayer, rather than a softer modern reading, to seal their union before God.

Smileless2012 Wed 10-May-23 19:48:11

Well I never knew that lemsip. Certainly shows their desire to 'be right' with God.

lemsip Wed 10-May-23 20:02:39

it's in the new book about the king so I googled it for truth and sure enough there is lots about the passage used.

I got the book from the library, wouldn't pay money for it.

Anniebach Wed 10-May-23 20:04:53

Who wrote the book ?

nadateturbe Wed 10-May-23 20:06:02

I think most people understand we don't have an absolute monarchy.

lemsip Wed 10-May-23 20:49:25

Anniebach

Who wrote the book ?

Robert Jobson.

Our King, charles 111, the man and the monarch revealed' sunday times best selling author. 2023

Saetana Wed 10-May-23 20:59:15

The King's commitment to serve, rather than be served, was straight from the ethos of his late mother Queen Elizabeth. Yes, it is Christian in nature but I recall she stated as a young Princess that her whole life would be dedicated to service - and so it was.

Anniebach Wed 10-May-23 21:16:40

Thank you lemsip

Callistemon21 Wed 10-May-23 22:44:00

nadateturbe

I think most people understand we don't have an absolute monarchy.

I did say some

It's quite surprising.

Glorianny Thu 11-May-23 09:50:56

Elegran

Why complain that as Charles is divorced he shouldn't be head of the C of E?

It has always been possible for a couple to separate and live apart as though they were not married. Divorce is just a way to do that as a permanent legality.

What was not accepted by the church until recently was to marry another while the first spouse was still alive. Charles didn't remarry until well after his divorced wife had died.

The advice given to the clergy about remarriage would probably rule Charles and Camilla out

Would the effects of the proposed marriage on individuals, the wider community
and the Church be such as to undermine the credibility of the Church’s witness to marriage?
 Would the new marriage be likely to be a cause of hostile public comment or scandal?
(e) Would permitting the new marriage be tantamount to consecrating an old infidelity?
 While it would be unreasonable to expect that the couple should not even have known
each other during the former marriage(s), was the relationship between the applicants – so
far as you can tell from the information made available to you - a direct cause of the
breakdown of the former marriage?

Whoops on all of them!!!!

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 11-May-23 09:59:58

They weren’t married in church. They had a civil ceremony.

Caleo Thu 11-May-23 10:00:32

Indeed, Saetana. Both the late Queen and Prince Charles were and are devoted to their Christian duty to serve others before themselves.

This entirely good aspiration, the King would find easier to accomplish if the Church of England were disestablished and thence could advise him without prejudice.

Anniebach Thu 11-May-23 10:02:03

Whoops Glorianny

Their marriage was blessed in church

Callistemon21 Thu 11-May-23 10:22:34

The advice given to the clergy about remarriage would probably rule Charles and Camilla out

Do you have a link to that advice, please? Does the general public have knowledge of it or was it private?
Probably is very vague and could mean anything at all.

It could just mean "I think that"

Mollygo Thu 11-May-23 10:39:35

Probably is very vague and could mean anything at all.

It could just mean "I think that"

🤣🤣🤣 It probably does.