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Canon Andrew Hindley

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Nannylovesshopping Tue 13-Aug-24 10:52:38

I cannot believe what I am reading this am, I am utterly outraged!

Anniebach Sun 18-Aug-24 20:19:15

Yes it must , at times the guilty will be free but the innocent incarcerated

M0nica Sun 18-Aug-24 20:30:03

Anniebach, no. That was the problem.

The other problem is that nothing was ever proved or reached levels of evidence that could be expected to get a conviction in a trial. The young men involved all flatly denied the accusations. There was this cloud of suspicion and risk taking behaviour that surrounded him and he was suspended several times, but had to be reinstated because nothing was ever proved.

This is the core of this whole problem. this very clever and manipulative man always suceeded in staying just clear of doing anything provably wrong.

It is like having a thief in the office, everyone is pretty sure they know who it is, but do not have enough evidence to confirm it.

Anniebach Sun 18-Aug-24 20:40:30

Agree MOnica

OnwardandUpward Sun 18-Aug-24 21:31:26

Yes, I'm sure many did know what was going on, but I read that they were relying on this man's word to help them in their careers, so maybe were afraid to speak out.

@Fancythat It's true, we do need to be discerning and not take things at face value. Yes people do seem to kowtow to authority without really examining what it stands for, sadly.

@Anniebach but by you not believing it's happening is the same way that people ignore what they do not want to see. Not looking or stopping is what the Priest who ignored the traveller in the parable of the Good Samaritan did. In the end it was only the Good Samaritan that helped.
Yes as you say "In the Churches there are liars , thieves, adulterers, abusers, law breakers, far outnumbered by what is good in man " (AND some of them are PAID by the church!)

@Iam64 Yes I totally agree that the Safeguarding policies of the CofE were completely inadequate (and probably still are!) Even now they have anti bullying policies, they are just words on a page and not even all churches have one.

Anyone with an important job title is only as good as the way they treat others, especially the waiter or anyone who they deem beneath them. Actions always speak louder than words. Many times people who bully others are trying to cover up something about themselves because they are weak and insecure.

@Bluebelle The way that some people hero worship a man in ministry is ridiculous. He may be charismatic, yet a horrible cheat and abuser but if all the women he doesn't live with think he's amazing then he must be, right? (sigh) I've seen those women and those men before. The persona they have helps them to prey on other vulnerable women.

Many abusers that I know of in my Safeguarding experience (I am pleased to say NOT for the CofE) have told horrendous lies about the very people they have abused and wronged terribly, causing others to treat them badly when they were i need of support. This level of gaslighting and abuse is nothing short of evil.

Anniebach Sun 18-Aug-24 21:40:16

Quote OnwardandUpward Sun 18-Aug-24 21:31:26
Yes, I'm sure many did know what was going on, but I read that they were relying on this man's word to help them in their careers, so maybe were afraid to speak out.

You are sure, you do not know,

OnwardandUpward Sun 18-Aug-24 22:03:37

As you replied to someone else in defence of your views @Anniebach that it was your opinion, this is mine.

Anniebach Sun 18-Aug-24 22:35:15

Yes it is your opinion

OnwardandUpward Sun 18-Aug-24 22:40:27

Based on information I read. Unless you were there, you also cannot contradict.