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Antisemitism

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Caleo Mon 14-Apr-25 09:35:17

Israel is not coterminous with Judaism.

I respect and like Judaism. My Lord was a Jew. Judeo Christianity has been a major civilising influence.

I deplore and despise the extreme right wing nationalism of Israel.

AN41 Sat 26-Apr-25 18:00:58

I admire and respect those Jewish people who do stand up and speak out against the disproportionate extreme and prolonged actions of Netanyahu and his supporters.
They are brave, good people.

Grannylynj Sat 26-Apr-25 18:19:57

I don’t know what coterminous means

Anniebach Sat 26-Apr-25 18:22:11

Quote AN41 Sat 26-Apr-25 18:00:58
I admire and respect those Jewish people who do stand up and speak out against the disproportionate extreme and prolonged actions of Netanyahu and his supporters.
They are brave, good people.

And those who remain silent are bad people ?

Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 18:37:04

No - it's just that some people are willing/want to speak up, and other aren't. Its not a commentary on those who make other choices.

Anniebach Sat 26-Apr-25 18:52:57

It reads as a criticism , it is a criticism

Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 19:00:04

I guess people will interpret it differently.

I just saw it as praise for those standing up for a POV in a situation where its not easy because of the possible criticism of others that they are anti-semitic when they are protesting a regime.

Anniebach Sat 26-Apr-25 19:06:56

If they are Jews can they be accused of being antisemitic ? Surely not , think of the quotes we have read on this forum, the Rabbi quotes , the ghastly Miriam Miriam Margolyes ?

Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 19:39:17

I just had in mind not the controversial expanses sometimes dished out but simply that many Jewish people don't support Netanyahu

www.thejc.com/news/uk/three-quarters-of-uk-jews-disapprove-of-benjamin-netanyhau-qygmoz61

Its not controversial, disagreement might be for a number of reasons, but some might find it hard to come out and say so because of anti semitism.

Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 19:40:46

Sorry, correct typo/meaning

"controversial extreme views sometimes dished out but simply that many jewish people don't support Netanyahu.

Anniebach Sun 27-Apr-25 08:53:35

So the 90% of the Board of Deputies of British Jews who have spoken against Israel ?

ferry23 Sun 27-Apr-25 09:20:53

Anniebach

So the 90% of the Board of Deputies of British Jews who have spoken against Israel ?

Are you referring to the recent letter Annie?

If so this is not correct. There are over 300 Deputies. 36 of them were signatories to the letter.

Anniebach Sun 27-Apr-25 09:24:32

Do correct me

silverlining48 Sun 27-Apr-25 15:02:46

More supported the letter but were reluctant to sign ✍️ in fear of backlash.

Anniebach Sun 27-Apr-25 15:13:06

Really, who said ?

Allsorts Sun 27-Apr-25 15:18:45

All extremism is appalling. Speak up and challenge if you hear it.

Anniebach Sun 27-Apr-25 15:21:35

Quote silverlining48 Sun 27-Apr-25 15:02:46
More supported the letter but were reluctant to sign ✍️ in fear of backlash.

Surely, given the attacks on Jews in this country because of Israeli v Palestine war , if they fear for their safety speaking out against Israel would benefit them ?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 27-Apr-25 15:27:25

There is frequent talk of civil war in Israel. The latest can be read in Haaretz.

silverlining48 Sun 27-Apr-25 15:29:28

You ask who said this? The person was the main signatory of the letter. Baron someone? I can’t remember now.

Anniebach Sun 27-Apr-25 15:37:06

I do not believe Jews would fear attacks by Jews for criticising
Israel silverlining

Really Whitewave ? no fear in Israel but fear in this country !

Whitewavemark2 Sun 27-Apr-25 15:38:34

Yes really.

Anniebach Sun 27-Apr-25 15:41:17

So not true

Whitewavemark2 Sun 27-Apr-25 15:44:27

What isn’t true?

Maremia Sun 27-Apr-25 15:47:28

Sorry GNs, finding the latter part of this thread a bit confusing. Will come back on again when the direction is clearer.

growstuff Sun 27-Apr-25 15:47:51

Anniebach I don't believe that any criticism of the current Israeli government from anybody (Jew or not) is antisemiticism. However, there are people who claim that it is and Jews who do are sometimes called self-hating Jews by other Jews.

ferry23 Sun 27-Apr-25 15:49:00

There is, in fact, an official complaint against those who signed the letter - from the BoD website -

Following multiple complaints by Deputies and the public, all 36 signatories of the letter to the Financial Times are now subject to a complaints procedure in accordance with Appendix G to the Board of Deputies’ Constitution.