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Caleo I think perhaps you should research Humanism and then The Religious society of Friends and you will find that, though they share some beliefs, they diverge in many others. Humanists do not believe that individuals have God within them neither do all Quakers.

Magenta8

Caleo I think perhaps you should research Humanism and then The Religious society of Friends and you will find that, though they share some beliefs, they diverge in many others. Humanists do not believe that individuals have God within them neither do all Quakers.

The idea that each individual has a little of God within them facilitates liberal education for all, and also the style of criminal justice that aims to rehabilitate criminals wherever possible.

Quakers have a history of activity in social reform, as have Humanists and Unitarians. Of the God-religions Unitarians and Quakers are the closest to Humanists.

Until I became housebound I was a Humanist for 20 or more years, have chaired Humanist discussions and participated in Humanist events. I have also been a Unitarian for at the same time as I was a Humanist.

Humanism and Unitarianism endorse free thinking. Many Humanists personally dislike religions . I have never met a Humanist who would be unwelcoming to a religionist who attended a Humanist meeting.

I have attended only one Quaker meeting . There is no question but that Quakers trust that no individual is irretrievably a lost soul. Many Humanists believe likewise although they do not use religious language.

I have to admit I'm not keen on Quakers, I know they are pacifists, and wouldn't dream of joining our armed forces, or even be conscripted, fair enough, their choice, but when I learned in recent years they were totally against the military, and wouldn't support or respect them (as they deserve to be), then I went right off them all together.

Magenta8

Caleo I think perhaps you should research Humanism and then The Religious society of Friends and you will find that, though they share some beliefs, they diverge in many others. Humanists do not believe that individuals have God within them neither do all Quakers.

I should point out that Magenta's post is an example of unjustified presupposition.

That's to say , It’s when someone talks like something is true without showing it really is.

Cillafan

I have to admit I'm not keen on Quakers, I know they are pacifists, and wouldn't dream of joining our armed forces, or even be conscripted, fair enough, their choice, but when I learned in recent years they were totally against the military, and wouldn't support or respect them (as they deserve to be), then I went right off them all together.

For Quakers, no war is just; for international law, a war is only ‘just’ if it’s legal and fought by the rules.”

I am guessing that they respect all people but not all institutions Cillafan

NotSpaghetti

I am guessing that they respect all people but not all institutions Cillafan

So , in line with Not Spaghetti's wise remark, applied pacifism is like we may respect all the Auschwitz guards as our brothers but not the Nazism that has the cruel guards in thrall .

Caleo

NotSpaghetti

I am guessing that they respect all people but not all institutions Cillafan

So , in line with Not Spaghetti's wise remark, applied pacifism is like we may respect all the Auschwitz guards as our brothers but not the Nazism that has the cruel guards in thrall .

Human nature is either that the germs of atrocity are in every person, or there is that of the good God in every person, or both.
It is obvious that every person may be snared into evil doing .
It's also obvious that some people resist evil with enormous courage and tenacity.
Quakers believe and trust that resistance to evil can be nurtured and rehearsed particularly by allowing communication with the good God during silent meetings.

Cillafan

I have to admit I'm not keen on Quakers, I know they are pacifists, and wouldn't dream of joining our armed forces, or even be conscripted, fair enough, their choice, but when I learned in recent years they were totally against the military, and wouldn't support or respect them (as they deserve to be), then I went right off them all together.

Some Quakers did support the military services with their medical support called the Friends Ambulance Unit ' Worth a read

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends%27_Ambulance_Unit

"The Friends' Ambulance Unit (FAU) was a volunteer ambulance service, founded by individual members of the British Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), in line with their Peace Testimony. The FAU operated from 1914 to 1919, 1939 to 1946 and 1946 to 1959 in 25 countries. It was independent of the Quakers' organisation and chiefly staffed by registered conscientious objectors."