Marks and Spencer have men's XL sweaters starting from £20.
So, what does “class” actually mean to you nowadays?
Reforms response to Rachel Reeves’ heckler.
Adverts for temu keep intruding everywhere but I've been told its a Chinese firm, and advised not to use them.
I'm currently searching for a size 5x (!) sweater for a family member, it has to have a Vee neck, and I just can't find one anywhere unless I'm going to pay £100+ for it (and he's not THAT close a family member).
Every time I post a request for vee necked sweaters - up pops Temu!
Marks and Spencer have men's XL sweaters starting from £20.
Just NO! Please imagine that it’s your daughter who has to work under these conditions.
Is it really worth the “bargain price”?
As has been said on previous threads about the likes of Temu and Shein, they are far from the only companies operating under such conditions - many much 'higher end' brands are hardly blameless in that respect either. If you're on a tight budget, as many are these days, then such considerations are often less of a priority for many people, sad as that may be.
Anyone who buys from this company are helping the exploitation of vulnerable people.
How do you feel about slavery?
If the thought of slaves being forced to labour makes you feel uncomfortable, then do not use Temu as it purportedly uses Uyghur slave labour.
Shein allegedly uses child labour.
It depends how you feel about these things.
Freya5
Anyone who buys from this company are helping the exploitation of vulnerable people.
I agree, but they are hardly the only company to be doing so.
These ‘vulnerable’ people and their families , would otherwise be starving . Some job is better than no job.
Nike are still despicable employers 😡
cleanclothes.org/news/2023/nike-board-executives-under-fire
crazyH
These ‘vulnerable’ people and their families , would otherwise be starving . Some job is better than no job.
The fact is that Temu can easily afford to treat their workers better and pay them more but choose not to.
Temu is a market, not a shop.
Most of what you buy from amazon is on temu, but cheaper.
So if you're happy to pay more to support poor pay and conditions, knock yourself out.
Shein and temu are right at the top, of the "bad" list, followed by primark, and then Zara.
This.
I don't think I'll be using them but CrazyH has a point.
I'd also like to say, I'm looking for 5 Xs ..... not just an XL as sold in the high street. Chums and BadRhino and such places do stock the sizes but the quality is poor and they loose shape in the first wash.
Bear in kind that almost EVERY brand could so better, in terms of their supply and workforce chains.
It may well be presented in a nice shop, served to you by pleasant looking staff, with tasteful music playing in the background, but go further down the line in their supply chains, and they often have the exact same flaws as cheaper brands.
Just a BIG NO, for all the reasons stated above.
So that makes it right then MissA
Well anyone that can live without it pricking their conscience so be it the thoughts of our grandkids or kids having to slave 15 + hours a day with no breaks in hot sweltering conditions with no rights, no holiday, or time off makes me feel ill and I can t justify it by saying others might be doing it too
(I buy mostly from charity shops so feel reasonably ok)
I am very tempted as some of the stuff looks lovely but I can’t do it
I have used it several times, I have had no disasters, merchandise has been fairly inexpensive, delivery is long and slow, but stuff reasonable quality and and well packaged.
Like everything though, I do worry about how and who their stuff is sourced and produced!
I take it those who are so sniffy about the likes of Temu or Shein do the same due diligence when it comes to everything else they purchase? Let's face it, there are many, many famous brand names - not just in the world of fashion - who are less than whiter than white. (And for the record, I've never bought anything from Temu - I've no axe to grind here).
Temu is a Chinese company who sell items manufactured in China. Most items that we buy are manufactured in China, Taiwan and beyond. Temu clothes are good they sell large sizes I have bought and they are okay. If you are looking for 5x you could also try SHEIN who sell larger sizes. Tik Tok plus size shops are also good. Each of these is an online shop, I would ask for help to get to know how to use these websites it’s not harder than Gransnet !
Allira
How do you feel about slavery?
If the thought of slaves being forced to labour makes you feel uncomfortable, then do not use Temu as it purportedly uses Uyghur slave labour.
Shein allegedly uses child labour.
It depends how you feel about these things.
The issue here is almost all companies are guilty of this to a further or lesser degree.
MissInterpreted
I take it those who are so sniffy about the likes of Temu or Shein do the same due diligence when it comes to everything else they purchase? Let's face it, there are many, many famous brand names - not just in the world of fashion - who are less than whiter than white. (And for the record, I've never bought anything from Temu - I've no axe to grind here).
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When buying from Temu you are buying direct from manufacturers, the same items are purchased by companies that brand them and add their profit, if your conscience is eased by paying more then you can buy from other outlets.
A big NO from me too. Wouldn’t touch them with a 10ft barge pole.
I m not sniffy at all * Misinterpreted* i would love to buy, they have some good looking stuff at my sort of prices but my conscience once I read up on the conditions just wouldn’t let me
There may well be other companies who we shouldn’t be buying off and as I said before I buy most of my clothes second hand
Conditions are so bad for these people, they are slaves and I can’t enjoy the stuff knowing that …if others can then that’s up to them
I’m seeing these posts advising people not to use Temu on the basis of workers having no rights well as much as I agree I suggest you also look closer to home in the UK we have many many workers with no rights we have workers on Zero Hour Contracts we have apprentices who receive no money for months and months of work, we have a fully operating slave trade with both men and women made to work for a pittance…..
I wasn't just talking about clothes though - companies like Coca Cola, Nestle, even Asda and Tesco, have all been criticised for their less than ethical business practices. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Even many supposedly 'ethical' companies have been found to be guilty of 'greenwashing'.
BlueBelle
So that makes it right then MissA
Well anyone that can live without it pricking their conscience so be it the thoughts of our grandkids or kids having to slave 15 + hours a day with no breaks in hot sweltering conditions with no rights, no holiday, or time off makes me feel ill and I can t justify it by saying others might be doing it too
(I buy mostly from charity shops so feel reasonably ok)
I am very tempted as some of the stuff looks lovely but I can’t do it
No,nothing makes it right, including nice shops selling the products.
Last week it was people imploring us to think about the environment before washing our clothes - there is always something.
We are all part of it, just by the fact that we exist.
Electric cars? How are the batteries made, by whom, and where do they go when they've past their sell by date.
We are all part of it, whether we like it or not, so we may as well admit it.
Is the wage that the average non skilled ik worker a living wage, when they often need food banks to manage.
It's our equivalent of slave labour, I think. Where are out children's children's football strips made, and by whom?
Their trainers?
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