Brexit: will you eat bad meat or vegetarian?

I try to eat mostly vegetables, although I do cook meat for my grandchildren.

As it appears food standards will suffer, I would suggest only buying the best quality, organic meat from providers that care about animal welfare - but buying much less to avoid your food bill rocketing.

Vegansrock, by " good meat" I meant locally killed by artisan butcher, locally bred in top of the range welfare conditions, and fattened on free range pasture. This is very expensive food for people to buy. Food has been far too cheap and animals have paid for cheapness with their suffering.

The present government is incapable of not putting immediate profit before welfare.

If we import meat from the US no-one is going to know if they're buying it because the US has always said that a trade deal would include a stipulation that there would be no labelling of the meat's origin.

In that case I'd ban supermarket meat in our house (not that I buy it, but OH can't resist LIdl bargains from time to time) and buy only from our butcher, who sells locally produced meat. We could eat more fish and cheese and eggs. I don't think it would be a problem.

I'd never get OH to go vegan, or even vegetarian, and he does most of the cooking, so ?‍♂️

I’m with you WWM2. I only buy organic or free range meat and don’t eat meat every day. A chicken that costs £10 serves me with at least 12 meals and 10 soups. I have bought this way for 40 years when everyone thought I was mad to do so (so much so you didn’t dare admit it) and the local greengrocer said organic would never catch on!

I just think of all the families who go to Florida on holiday. No fuss made about their meals. If there was it would be Twittered to death.

Look, we all like to think we care for animal welfare. That’s the right way to think. If it was a choice between BAD meat and vegetarian I’d go vegetarian every time.

But please, let’s remember not all families in the UK can afford farmer’s markets, organic food and Waitrose. It’s smug to virtue signal.

Supply & demand. As long as consumers want cheap and edible (maybe a bit tasteless, so shove some spices in there bro) the producers will supply.

I only buy free range meat and fish that is not farmed from UK and sustainable. If I couldn’t buy it I would do without.

Vegetarian is cheaper, and there is plenty of guidance these days to make it tasty and nourishing.

While I appreciate the consideration for 'higher' animal welfare and the wish to reduce suffering - please don't ever kid yourselves that 'cruelty-free' actually exists!

Animals suffer great pain and trauma through de-horning, de-beaking, castration, transportation, shearing, giving birth, being separated from their young etc. etc. every single day. There is no pain-free death.

All the above - to produce items totally unnecessary for our diet, their production incredibly harmful to our planet.

How you can cook, chew and actually swallow these things, without feeling guilty or sick, I can't imagine. And many of you will have pets and say you love animals too!

I agree grandmajet about vegetarianism. It’s vegan that’s the pain in the proverbial needing supplements too I think I read.

Calendar girl if you would like to see inside an abattoir in the U.K. i suggest you watch
Earthlings
Knives over Forks
Cowspiracy
all on Netflix.
I challenge you to watch any of these without seriously considering veganism.
If you would rather not watch any animal cruelty don’t watch and consider why.

Vegans get plenty of abuse - I’ve been accused of having an eating disorder, a mental illness, now a pain in the proverbial, just for saying I’d rather not eat animal products.

Flowershop

More Brexit bullshit.

vegansrock I've heard this many times from vegan friends and family.

My vegan family dont lecture others, they just go about their life doing as they see fit, but they are confronted about the decision to go vegan, by others constantly.

Notwithstanding, it can be used as a camouflage for eating disorders

Are you saying that eating dead animals is or is not an eating disorder?

Sincere apologies vegansrock that was a thoughtless remark by me.

I think I meant cooking (I was flummoxed once a good few years ago when a daughter brought a friend home for the weekend and I hadn’t been told she was vegan). Cue panic from me! Beans on toast love?

No butter ....
?

To try and respond to your original question Alexa a lot of people will eat the lesser quality meat, because that’s all they will be able to afford. Not just that, the media predominately still portray meals with meat as the ‘norm’, less in recent years, but mainly. You just need to look at mainstream cookery programmes, advertising, product placement in supermarkets amongst others. So there isn’t the awareness of the origin of the meat on offer and to be honest, a lot of people don’t care, price drives their buying decisions, not quality. I’m not for or against, it’s how it is. And yes, I have seen in an abattoir, many years ago.