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Gransnet or Nannynet?

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trisher Sat 16-May-15 10:25:17

I recently had a post deleted because it contravened the guidelines, it wasn't obscene, racist or a personal attack. It was a very bad taste joke the subject of which doesn't really matter. There is in British politics a long history of using satire and bad taste to highlight problems and I wonder why Gransnet feel this is unsuitable for the forums? I certainly would make the joke I made on here to my friends. It was posted on a thread with a warning about bad language so not for the fainthearted. Presumably Jonthan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" where he proposes that the Irish should eat their children as a solution to famine would be regarded as unacceptable and deleted. Come on Gransnet, either set up a warning system and make some posts more appropriate to thinking adults, or just accept the satire part of political debate, but please stop acting like Nanny, we are grown ups!

ffinnochio Tue 19-May-15 15:06:30

I agree with riverwalk's comments. Along with being seen as patronising and ageist, I rather think that the reach/targeting to specific demographics has something to do with gnhq's decision making.

thatbags Tue 19-May-15 14:52:18

I also agree with what riverwalk said.

Eloethan Tue 19-May-15 13:13:57

I agree with riverwalk also.

Anya Tue 19-May-15 12:40:14

Agree riverwalk

I didn't find trisher's post offensive.

Riverwalk Tue 19-May-15 12:31:06

I've only twice posted on Mumsnet but I do read with interest some of their threads.

One recent thread could have been libelous IMO - it was jokey and gossipy about various celebrities that members had met/heard about - they named names and made quite serious/salacious allegations.

The law of the land is just that and equally applies to both sites and all sites, so I can only conclude that as certain posts and threads are deleted here on GN but wouldn't raise an eyebrow on MN, that HQ think we are somehow delicate and sensitive.

Just because we are grandparents doesn't mean we have to be protected - it's patronising and ageist.

soontobe Tue 19-May-15 12:12:04

Perhaps, or presumably, there is a bad taste rating system already at headquarters.

trisher Tue 19-May-15 12:11:55

Probably jbf

pompa Tue 19-May-15 12:04:32

Sorry Trisha, I was not criticising your viewpoint, my comment was not aimed at any GNer, I was just stating my view of the way the site is moderated and run.
I said earlier that I would be in favour of a rating system.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 19-May-15 11:51:11

Overthinking it Trisher?

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 19-May-15 11:50:14

But true.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 19-May-15 11:49:48

God, that was patronising! shock

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 19-May-15 11:49:16

To be fair, I think this all happened at the weekend, when one of the less experienced of the HQrs was standing in. We really should cut her some slack. If it's the one I think it might have been, she is very sweet. grin

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 19-May-15 11:46:13

Exactly Riverwalk.

trisher Tue 19-May-15 11:28:26

sorry thatbags should probably have said "I prefer not to read further".
A rating system would give you an idea of the sort of things that might be said. So my suggestion-
Level 1-one star-green (any method of indication you like)-chat and banter, lighthearted posts absolutely nothing controversial.
Level 2 2stars-amber- some degree of argument and discussion- no bad taste, no swearing, .
Level 3 3 stars-red- free argument and discussion with posts only deleted if the content is libellous or something which could be challenged in law.

Ana Tue 19-May-15 11:19:50

I don't understand what you mean, kitty.

thatbags Tue 19-May-15 11:17:39

How does one know one prefers not to read something until one has read it, at least some of it? wink

kittylester Tue 19-May-15 11:16:53

I agree with your argument about people being too happy to report trisher. I wonder if it would help if we could see who started a post?

trisher Tue 19-May-15 11:12:29

pompa I don't object to people who want an anodyne unconfrontational forum and I respect other people's boundaries, which is why I think we need a rating system. I have my own likes and dislikes as far as posts go and there are times when I prefer not to read something. But I am old enough and wise enough to know that these are my personal preferences and I have no wish to inflict them on others. I do think there are some people with very narrow views who would restrict what others say and I don't see why they should be the ones to push GNHQ into deleting posts. If there was a rating system they would be able to avoid such posts and let the rest of us get on with it.
kittylester could do, might do. Watch this space! But busy with this just now.

pompa Tue 19-May-15 10:45:24

In support of GNHQ, I think they have got the moderation of this site spot on. You can't please all the people all of the time.

kittylester Tue 19-May-15 10:44:33

Trisher, if you really want to have the debate start another thread in a different way! gnhq haven't stifled debate, just your way of starting it.

Riverwalk Tue 19-May-15 10:33:47

I'm surprised the post was deleted - it had a satirical wit and I can't imagine who would be shocked or offended. It was along the lines of something that would be on HIGNFY.

A 'nanny' site indeed - we're not children and didn't need protecting from the post.

trisher Tue 19-May-15 10:19:50

It was a bad taste joke but it had more to it, I hoped to make people think:1 about people with inappropriate views being given public appointments: 2. that the 2 people concerned had close connections with the establishment and would once have been seen as ideal for the job: 3. that this government and the establishment still have a poor record on investigating and prosecuting child abuse at high levels.
Maybe it wouldn't have made everybody think all of these things but it would have kept the subject in the area of public debate. Gransnet have censored it and stopped any real discussion.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 19-May-15 09:19:47

Eh?! confused

(searches for a point where bad taste is so bad it can no longer be described as bad taste but has to have another term applied to it. And what the other term would be)

thatbags Tue 19-May-15 07:15:44

HQ said your post went "a bit beyond" mere bad taste, trisher. Mildly put but very clear that bad taste was not the problem.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 18-May-15 22:49:59

No. I don't think it would be right to cause gratuitous offence.

But I don't see the connection here. confused