Rules for GN cafe

patronising is such an over-used word that it has become meaningless.

If you're struggling to find someone to talk to in real life, or are simply looking for a bit of a chat, this is the place for you.
GN Café soop's kitchen was never part of the Café and I don't know why it was moved there - so, if you have no-one to talk to and are upset and need quiet refuge are you not allowed to say what has upset you? Names are never mentioned as far as I can tell.

Oh come on why is it argumentative and losing one's temper to get into a political discussion and state one's beliefs with passion? It's this pathetic unfounded and frankly patronising attitude that anyone who says anything which might be considered outspoken or controversial must necessarily either be a) very angry b)mentally ill or c)drunk that is one of the worst elements of GN. People are passionate, if they care about things they are entitled to say so. And the 'holier than thou" attitude that 'nice' people don't do such things is frankly hypocritical. If people want to say nice things and pat each other on the back that's fine. If people don't want to become involved in heated political debates that's fine as well. What isn't fine is to post on a political thread where people hold strong beliefs and then swan off to another thread and moan about how awful other posters are. And frankly if the posters on these 'nice' threads were as 'nice' as they profess to be they would either report the poster who did this or post a reply asking (nicely of course) that people stop posting about these things.

Impossible as it seems to Rigby, she wasn't in the forefront of my mind when I typed the post she exploded about. Perhaps subconsciously I remembered the post, but not the name connected with it. It wasn't posted as a personal attack.

Temper! temper! I have come to the conclusion that a great deal of the unpleasantness is caused by the high anger levels of the main posters on the political threads spilling over into ALL aspects of GN. They are so fired up to fight battles that they just can't stop. I really think that if it were physical combat they would follow someone into A&E to keep the fight going, and complain bitterly to the staff that their rights were being eroded because the patients had mentioned where it was they came by their injuries.

SK is an A&E sanctuary. People go there to get plasters on their cuts and arnica on their bruises, and recuperate. It is not surprising that during the treatment they sometimes mention the cause of the damage. They don't go on about it, they accept the calm atmosphere and cool down.

Advice to stay off the political threads? It is impossible to avoid, not the threads but the posters who fill threads on all subjects under the sun, claiming that "everything in life is political". Well, A&E is one place where patients under treatment are allowed to be non-political - or even anti-political if that is where their injuries were sustained. They'd be anti-car if they'd just been in a road accident, even if they had not been driving all that well themselves.

Maw - hear hear, I don't post much in the kitchen but I really enjoy reading everybody's posts and agree with what you say, namely that sometimes people come in and say that they've had to duck down behind the parapet! I don't see why that should offend posters on other threads.

In other words they are commenting on themselves and what is wrong with that?

If anyone mentions the other threads (in passing) they don't say 'Nasty whatshername was horrid to me' they say things like 'Blimey it's feisty out there'. I have never seen anyone named in the kitchen only posters expressing the fact that they feel bruised.

as they Clutch their pearls on other threads!

Is this a reference to me?
I don't "do" politics. I am a follower of Pythagoras and abstain from beans!

Rigby46, I find you very depressing with your constant criticisms. ? and unpleasantness.

PS bring cake !! or your beverage of choice ! ;-)

Thankyou, N&G.

You'd be made welcome the same as everyone else Durhamjen.

Or, on the other hand, Rigby, we could just go to soops kitchen, and be non-judgmental like all the others there.

But Rigby of course its personal .....

Rigby46 Fri 16-Jun-17 12:44:26
I started this thread - of course it was a reference to me. Who else has started a thread about SK? Come on, do tell... Oh wait, you can't.

A very good idea methinks.

I'll go back to the political threads now to the grown ups

Rigby if you must know, soop is at a care home visiting a friend who was admitted there a while ago. That is one of the many reasons she is not attached to her computer replying to your question.

I seem to remember that a lot of SK posters objected when the Kitchen was moved into Gransnet Cafe. So perhaps it's GNHQ who should be taken to task.

Do you know what * rigby* I really resent your sniping at Soop in that last post (would that it were the last post too!)!
Soop doesn't have a selfish bone in her body and on Friday mornings I believe she and her husband visit a care home in the vicinity to bring some companionship, cheer and compassion to the residents with dementia.
While I am sure Soop is more than capable of standing up for herself, your inference that she could not be bothered is shameful.
You are not doing yourself or your "cause" whatever it might be, any favours.
Shameful behaviour.

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Who are these people who are in the kitchen who are above the rules Rigby? What evidence do you have of that ? Its been pointed out by GNHQ -you should report those offensive posts and they will deleted. Just like some from you recently- so you know how it works.

More importantly where are the long threads slagging off other boards or individuals.

I obviously have nothing better to do but I have just gone through the current 33 pages (809 posts)

Approximately 10 mention either other threads or specifically political threads and 2 of those posts were from you. And when I say mention, its a line usually in a longer post about other non related stuff. And the sum total is usually , had my arse handed to me on a plate in the political threads- I'm here to recover .

Is that really what all this hoo ha is about?

So in my book there's no 'slagging off' . People make mention when they are upset, saddened or distressed and its done in the mildest of ways unlike some posts on other threads I have seen.

Maw has a point - what were you wanting from SK? You're very welcome to join us those 799 posts are about pets, grandkids, the weather, cake ( we talk about cake a lot)and life in general. Pull up a chair ...it might grow on you !!

How patronising, MawBroon.

Well said MawBroon. What have we done to deserve this level of anger?

So there are two basic opinions on here - the ones who think that SK should be a safe haven that isn't judgemental and doesn't criticise other posters on the political threads, even generically. And the ones who think that offering a safe haven and being non judgemental doesn't apply to political posters. Well soop sorry not to hear from you about your kitchen - are you happy with what's happening over there?