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jura2 Fri 17-Aug-18 12:36:17

It would be helpful for GN to make a decision on copy/cut/paste. GN should make a clear decision about whether they are allowed, and put a maximum length.

Personally I think it is much better to post a link- with perhaps the most saillant point/s 'cut and pasted' up to a maximum word length. The recent pages and pages are totally unacceptable imho, from either side or anywhere in between. Thank you.

jura2 Fri 17-Aug-18 19:45:35

Honest in seeking clarification from GN- done. No-one needs to be 'got rid of' - at all. And anyone tempted to post 1000s of links maybe should re-think, perhaps.

lemongrove Fri 17-Aug-18 19:42:53

Honest trying-to-get-rid-of -someone perhaps?
First I have heard about no copying and pasting on GN,
Now we shall get thousands of links.

jura2 Fri 17-Aug-18 19:37:31

Jalima, there is indeed nothing about it- but as GN was being inundated with so many lengthy 'cut and paste' recently- it was appropriate to ask for clarification. Lara understood and responded in a fair manner. No troube making there.

Your very personal attacks MB, are so obvious and so well, 'troublemaking' - and have been noticed by so many, with great puzzlement- as you are normally quite sensible and fair. I shall probably never know why you feel so strongly about me- but there you go. Sad indeed, but your problem, not mine.

But I am who I am- and would never try to change my identity. At least this is honest.

MawBroon Fri 17-Aug-18 19:09:22

Exactly lemongrove
Not a great day for GN all because of a troublemaker.

Jalima1108 Fri 17-Aug-18 19:07:29

Lara
I can't see anything in the rules about not copying and pasting.
confused

MissAdventure Fri 17-Aug-18 19:04:49

Some miserable old faggots on here..
And that message was horrible!

lemongrove Fri 17-Aug-18 19:01:13

So if all this was set up to stop Ally, it has mainly stopped Imnotarobot ( don’t think this was the intention) wink

lemongrove Fri 17-Aug-18 18:59:05

What on earth are you talking about jura with all that about ‘ changing names’ ?!
Allygran is not Imnotarobot ( Imnotarobot is anti Conservative andAnti Brexit according to his/her posts) or hadn’t you noticed?
That aside, I often read cut and pastes, but will never read links. In the past on here, it led to many dodgy sites.

Jalima1108 Fri 17-Aug-18 18:46:10

Iamnotarobot must be wondering what on earth hit her!!
Not a great welcome!

Jane10 Fri 17-Aug-18 18:36:02

Gosh well I don't!

Chewbacca Fri 17-Aug-18 18:27:12

Oh. I see now.

MawBroon Fri 17-Aug-18 18:14:24

Typical!
The didn’t work

MawBroon Fri 17-Aug-18 18:13:20

What prompted it?

jura2 Fri 17-Aug-18 12:36:17
^It would be helpful for GN to make a decision on copy/cut/paste. GN should make a clear decision about whether they are allowed, and put a maximum length.
Personally I think it is much better to post a link- with perhaps the most saillant point/s 'cut and pasted' up to a maximum word length. The recent pages and pages are totally unacceptable imho, from either side or anywhere in between. Thank you^

I wonder...........

Chewbacca Fri 17-Aug-18 18:02:36

I don't understand why this has suddenly become an issue. We've always had some posters who post endless url links to get their point across, and others who post screeds of dialogue, and it hasn't ever been an issue before. Why has this suddenly changed and what provoked it?

MawBroon Fri 17-Aug-18 17:59:14

Jura2 the agenda was perfectly clear, unfortunately it got you nowhere.
Now Iamnotarobot has been treated like a pariah. I cannot believe that was your intention, but what a nasty 24 hours.

Fennel Fri 17-Aug-18 17:52:12

To quote another poster I copy and paste wink
But just short quotes. and include the name of the poster.

Jalima1108 Fri 17-Aug-18 17:49:11

I would however welcome some universally recognised way of indicating quoted material. Up to now I thought we did this

jura I think that, if you want to quote another poster's words or a quote from somewhere else, you use these ^^ either side without a gap, not the square brackets.

I still have to use two square brackets each side [[ ]] for links, but I don't think everyone has to do that.

Jane10 Fri 17-Aug-18 17:06:29

MawBroon 'pettifogging'. Excellent word! I've not seen it for years!

janeainsworth Fri 17-Aug-18 16:59:22

Existing threads!!
Blinking phone!!!

janeainsworth Fri 17-Aug-18 16:58:37

Riverwalk and maw

I may be completely wrong here, but I don’t think the occasional cut’n’paste from a regular poster, would be objected to.
If there’s a paywall on a newspaper, for example, then many GNers wouldn’t be able to access the relevant parts.

That’s a very different scenario from someone suddenly appearing out of the ether and in the space of a couple of days, starting several new threads consisting of entirely cut’n’paste, or barge into existing breads and doing the same thing.

Something might not be explicitly against forum rules, but still be not in the spirit of the forum, which IMHO should feel like a conversation rather than a lecture.

jura2 Fri 17-Aug-18 15:53:31

MB, on the point of changing names, the rules are VERY clear on GN:

Quote: 'Username-changing

We discourage members from changing their usernames because we want everyone to be able to trust the relationships they build with others on Gransnet. However, you will be able to change your username once for sensitive threads. Alternatively, contact us directly at [email protected] if you think your current username is too identifying.' unquote.

Thefore posts mentioning this were indeed targeted at those who we know have changed names again, and again, and ... again. They know who they are. And yes, as GN says, it leads to trust issues and at times it takes a long time to work out who is who, and was who before, and before that again.

Which is why, although personal attacks by some would have made it more comfortable to change identity- I have made sure any change would NOT try and hide my identity at all. granjura, juragran and juragran 2. Now I would not have mentioned this again, but since you did...

jura2 Fri 17-Aug-18 15:46:32

MB, my foreign keyboard does not have square brackets, so I cannot use them to indicate quote/unquote. So I will use '......'
and indicate that I am quoting. Simple enough.

crystaltipps Fri 17-Aug-18 15:32:45

Yes it stifles debate to have overlong repetitive cut n pastes.

MawBroon Fri 17-Aug-18 15:28:46

Are we getting bogged down with pettifogging rules?
Whether you choose to post links or the entire text you wish to quote seems irrelevant to me. There is always the choice not to read or not to click the link.
I would however welcome some universally recognised way of indicating quoted material. Up to now I thought we did this Which was fine, but some members choose not to do it , so perhaps a different colour would be even better.
Whichever, I would hope that members who like to quote in full have not been picked on in any way because their views did not happen to tally with those of the complainant.
Rather like a thread (or two) a while back on usernames it does seem as if the complaint while appearing disingenuous is somewhat targeted .
Can’t we just live and let live and put the onus on reading in full or not, on to the reader?

Riverwalk Fri 17-Aug-18 15:20:22

Lara I'm just wondering what's wrong with long cut & pastes? And how are they against the rules.

Posters aren't doing themselves any favours with long cut & pastes, as most of us just glaze over and ignore, especially if the OP doesn't provide at least a precis, but what rule are they breaking?

It's rather like those who post a pageful with no paragraphs - could be very interesting but the style and presentation means I just ignore. But not against the rules, I assume?