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POGS Mon 20-Aug-18 20:38:33

This will cause me some flak but this has gone on for so long on Gransnet. Only on one topic Brexit, other occasions GNHQ will say this is a Thread about a Thread and deal with it.

As of this moment there are 7 Brexit threads running on ACTIVE in one hour between 19.12 and 20.12 .

Are they not Threads about a Thread?

The only reason I can see for so many threads on the same subject, the same posts being regurgitated on so many threads by some posters is there is an agenda to keep putting over their opinion on as many threads as they can by initiating new OP titles. As a Brexit metaphor it could be said to be ' Having your cake and eating it'. Instead of the 'debate' flowing they simply move on to make their point over and over again.

What it actually does is exactly what Gransnet says will happen :-

' Similarly, we will delete threads about other ongoing threads, as it causes too much confusion on the forums. '

Occasionally a new Brexit Thread has a reason and that's good but why so many of the same ilk are perpetually on the site eludes me.

Yes I can ignore them but I would prefer a sensible debate that does not get cut off only to be started under another guise.

PamelaJ1 Tue 21-Aug-18 18:25:58

You are rightGillT54.
But what are you achieving? Only stress. No-one is listening except us.
We don’t count.

GillT57 Tue 21-Aug-18 18:37:22

Maybe we need to combine the Brexit threads? The problem can be that individual threads can soon get very lengthy. Sometimes posters start with a definite question about Brexit such as 'should we be stockpiling?" I appreciate it can get repetitive but I repeat; this is too important to be dismissed as boring. May be if we kept our comments direct and straight to the point and avoided lengthy cut and paste articles, but backing up any statements with their source, perhaps a link?

oldbatty Tue 21-Aug-18 18:50:42

Honestly no wish to provoke a massive fall out but I am fearful about the future. Should I be?

PamelaJ1 Tue 21-Aug-18 19:00:40

Who knows oldbatty.?

varian Tue 21-Aug-18 19:37:03

You should be fearful oldbatty unless you are sure that brexit can be prevented. I am not sure that can happen but I will do my best to see that it does. Most sensible grannies are, right now, very fearful that the lives of their grandchildren could be blighted by the nightmare that is brexit. You are not alone.

varian Tue 21-Aug-18 19:49:31

According to lemongrove "Mumsnet is full of Chicken Littles crying that the sky will shortly be falling in"

This remark is very typical of the dismissive leaver mentality. I do hope that there are not too many Mumsnetters reading it as it looks like fuel for a generational conflict.

I accept that most over-sixties voted Leave (although I did not) and that most younger people, especially well educated women who are likely to to post on Mumsnet, voted Remain, but surely the last thing you should want is to exacerbate that divide.

The puerile name-calling of the old leavers like lemongrove does them no credit.

MaizieD Tue 21-Aug-18 20:48:45

A fair few of the contributors to the Mumsnet threads are over 60, too, varian.

Jalima1108 Tue 21-Aug-18 21:03:10

Do you think that having so many threads dilutes the messages and in fact puts people off altogether?

grumppa Tue 21-Aug-18 21:23:40

Well said, POGS. While I have every sympathy with varian's efforts to see Brexit blocked, I do not believe that the multiplicity of Brexit threads on Gransnet will achieve anything, not least because I have never come across anyone departing from their initial position on any political thread (or any thread, now I think about it), because it tends to be principally those with entrenched views who post anyway.

It would be interesting to know, though impossible to discover, whether any silent Gransnet readers are swayed in their views by what they read here.

As for Brexit itself, it was always a dialogue of the deaf (iPad tried to change deaf to dead; for once I sympathise). That is the problem with referendums on issues like this: I rather fear that knowledge at the time of all the problems that have subsequently emerged would have made very little difference, not because Brexit voters were less intelligent than Remainers, but because for many of them the issue was and remains a visceral one.

varian Tue 21-Aug-18 21:28:47

There may not be many Gransnetters owning up to having changed their minds on brexit, but in RL I have met several repentant apologetic and embarrassed Leave voters who really regret how they voted. The information which has come to light in the last two years has made them think again. I have never met anyone who voted Remain and would now change to Leave.

oldbatty Tue 21-Aug-18 21:43:36

it was about immigration wasnt it?

POGS Tue 21-Aug-18 22:01:11

Echo !

lemongrove Tue 21-Aug-18 22:52:36

Your own puerile name calling does you no credit Varian
Not that anything stops you and your Brexit obsessed comments, it’s a wonder you have time to do anything else.
I couldn't care less if any mumsnetters are reading it, as I have seen some of the fearful over dramatic and posturing pronouncements on there, worthy of an Oscar at times.
Old Leaver? grinJust as you are an Old Remainer, and no, I am not bothered at all by the word old, as most of us on here are, and so what?
I think the result of the referendum vote sent some Remainers over the edge.

GillT57 Tue 21-Aug-18 23:02:37

So just like everything else that doesn't support your obsession with Brexit and 'taking back control' lemongrove you simply dismiss it, ignore the opinions, just like your friends Gove, Johnson et al. Experts know nothing, unless they support Brexit of course, and then your pal ally tries to bore us into agreeing with you by posting looooonnnngggg cut and paste articles. Nothing will ever convince me that Brexit is anything other than a complete and utter disaster, you are going to have to try harder. May be give ONE advantage of leaving?

varian Tue 21-Aug-18 23:05:33

Not satisfied with targetting fellow GNetters, you have now stooped to attacking the entire membership of Mumsnet- desperation or panic or just losing it lemon ?????

It reminds me of someone who went abroad and didn't like the fact there were too many foreigners there, you took a look at Mumsnet and decided there were too many Remainers there.

lemongrove Tue 21-Aug-18 23:11:59

I don’t have an obsession Gill I merely voted to Leave the EU as we were given a choice so to do.
Had the result been to remain with the EU I would have accepted the result and got on with my life, just as I am doing now.
Gove and Johnson are not my ‘friends’ btw but simply politicians.
What strange comments you make Gill.
Am quite content that Brexit is to you a ‘complete and utter
Disaster’ and have no wish to change your mind at all, never mind ‘try harder’, certainly not.

lemongrove Tue 21-Aug-18 23:13:26

Varian..... do calm down, am afraid it is you who are losing it.

LauraGransnet (GNHQ) Wed 22-Aug-18 10:13:11

Just swooping in <ducks head>...

We'd like any Brexit-related discussion (that isn't related to the original OP query) to now move over to one of the Brexit threads. Thanks all! smile

MargaretX Wed 22-Aug-18 10:43:01

Could we perhaps number them and then we would know which one we posted on. I've given up as the links have been allowed to get longer and longer and like the conversations in Brussels nothing alters and the outcome is looking bleak.

trisher Wed 22-Aug-18 11:25:04

Isn't this simply a thread about threads? Does that mean you can't have a thread about a thread but if it's about multiple threads that's OK? Just seems a bit pointless to me.