GNHQ here - please read

Usually, when people argue on the internet, it’s not to resolve an issue or to understand each other, it’s just about spouting an opinion.

I have heard it described as like running into a brick wall, it's stupid, it wastes time and can leave you with a throbbing headache.

Oh dear I’ve just heard from ggumteenth and she has been banned..

What a shame!

Last year I had a volley of reports but those posters who kept reporting me are no longer here----I don't think. All because I stood my ground and they lost the plot, childish really !

puzzler thanks for that and yes, it is a shame. I just wish we could hear from ggteenth as to why she posted what she did and make peace.

Whitewavemark2 if bizarre things happen we can put it down to the bizarre times we are all living through.
I for one can’t wait for this time to pass, and we’ll hopefully all be more positive and able to look forward to the rest of our lives. ?

Thanks Lara, I agree.

I think we are all tense as we’ve been worried about COVID-19 for so long.
I even fell out with my sister in the first weeks over something we would normally talk out and shrug off.
lemongrove you are a lovely, fun, well intentioned GN’er. Please don’t be upset. ?

Well there you are....it is bizarre.....but it happened.

I think the coronavirus situation has brought out the worst in some people who have been very quick to criticise other views. Many people are very tense and anxious at present. There’s a lot of change and a lot to worry about. This doesn’t tend to bring out the best in those affected by this.

Oh I’m not suggesting that you are at fault!, ?. Just trying to understand why someone should make such remarks for no apparent reason.

Seems a bit bizarre.

No whitewave you are certainly not making things better, far from it.Do please stop with remarks that somehow I am at fault over somebody elses deleted comments.

I think for those who mentioned MN, the two sites are very different. MN has its issues and is often robust but it's much bigger so it's quite hard to recognise posters, so therefore its tends not to be ongoing personal battles so much.

I don't think the problem lies only in political threads. The Estrangement and Relationship threads certainly take a bashing at times!

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You are completely and utterly wrong in this case Whitewave.... and there isn’t a different tack to take.
If you had read them you would know.

No didn’t have time they seemed to be on automatic delete button.

But it was just a thought rather than keep getting something zapped, why not try to pacify the situation? Anyway she seems to have given up now but perhaps you could try a different tact next time? I assume she didn’t post whatever it was for no reason but in reaction to something you posted. She doesn’t seem an unreasonable poster to me, just like you she has strong opinions.

I only suggest it in the interests of keeping things reasonable.

It's just ironic that posts were deleted on a thread asking posters to be polite and stay within the guidelines

Whitewave there is nothing to ‘arbitrate’ why should you thinks so ( did you actually read the posts?)
All that happened was a series of posts aimed at me ( many posts!) and HQ deleted them. End of.

FarNorth - instead of using the quote function you can copy and paste the part you're referring to.

My post about flaky wasn’t aimed at you lemon why did you think it was? Neither do I know if you ever report anyone, you seem very defensive?

trisher

Maybe I'm just a tough old bird having spent some of my teaching career in places where the names I was called and the attacks made on me were real, and could, if not managed properly, become physical,, but actually compared with what is said on much social media the attacks on GN seem fairly innocuous to me. Now I can understand that some people don't want to get into debate and discussion that can get heated, and that's their privilege. I also understand that there are some posters who are looking for help and understanding and who want support and if they are using GN for that it is something that shouldn't be abused. What I can't understand is why one sort of thread should take prescedence over another, or why a whole thread has to be deleted because two posters have a spat. It's a bit like the old actions of teachers when the whole class was punished for the misbehaviour of a few. It doesn't work. Mostly because some of the people who actually cause the disruption don't recognise their responsibility and so go on to repeat the actions. I think that is evident from some of the posts on this thread.
I do by the way recognise I am at times abrasive and call people out. (That's before some step in to tell me so) But I can take any sort of criticism and will never be defined by the things said about me, or to me, on GN.

Couldn't agree more trisher.

I think:

1) Disagreement is fine. Just because we're old doesn't mean we've lost interest in society.

2) IMO only outright prejudice should be deleted (racism, sexism, ageism).

3) Some posters aren't aware of the offensiveness of their posts and don't like being responded to. Not sure what can be done about that, not everyone has the ability to see the emotiveness of their language.

4) It doesn't bother me at all when posters attack me. If I didn't like it I wouldn't return to the thread.

Oh sorry posted too soon, and my question was answered. I wasn’t expecting you to defend yourself that isn’t what arbitration is about, but perhaps it is asking for the impossible.

That told me????

Not sure where lemon and ggtenth have gone? Perhaps they are busy arbitrating and will come back with everything settled? That would be a good victory.

Whitewave.....the answer is ‘no’. I realised that defending myself from a whole raft of personal remarks (for which there was no justification) would just make things worse.
I cannot believe, that on a thread instigated by GNHQ asking for consideration from posters, that this would happen!
I can assure you I am not at all ‘flakey’ neither do I complain a lot.HQ had already deleted many posts of their own accord.
Hope that sets the record straight.

chewbacca ???