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LaraGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 07-Jul-20 11:27:47

Hello, GNHQ here, (waving a white flag).

We need your help. As many of you have probably noticed the conversations over the past few days have been increasingly tense. The questions posed have been so interesting and worthy of debate but so often the conversations have derailed and turned into personal attacks (the veiled ones can be particularly unkind). We hate deleting threads when people have taken time and effort to contribute and it must be equally wearing for you all to wade through mean-spirited posts. We'd really like to get back to conversations that include debate/disagreement but that also show a bit of respect and consideration for other posters even if you disagree with them.
Thank you for reading. smile
GNHQ

Furret Wed 08-Jul-20 08:39:29

Hardly been in much over the last few days so can’t comment except to say it would be nice to have a reasoned debate.

Puzzler61 Wed 08-Jul-20 08:38:09

Absolutely on-side with your reminder Lara to respect all posters who are making valid points or giving their opinions.
Insults and disrespect spiral downwards into nasty abuse very quickly. Let’s keep chatting, debating, swapping ideas, tips and experiences and keep Gransnet a fine platform to post on. ?

lemongrove Wed 08-Jul-20 08:23:58

This isn’t a thread to air political grievances on, simply one to make us aware that GNHQ want posters to rein in personal remarks and stick to whatever subject is on the threads.

GGumteenth Wed 08-Jul-20 08:22:22

Message deleted by Gransnet for troll-hunting.

Marydoll Wed 08-Jul-20 07:19:42

Not everyone, Flying handbag.
You are correct in that times are difficult and we should be kind to each other. Posters should be able to debate without resorting to vitriol, but unfortunately some posters seem to be unable to do this. ☹️

I haven't noticed you posting much, so I hope you are ok.

FlyingHandbag Wed 08-Jul-20 01:35:36

Everyone seems to want to make vitriolic remarks to one another at a time when we should all be kind to one another. Lockdown is very hard, and some of us may be struggling and a cruel comment may tip someone over the edge. It should bring out the best in everyone not the worst. We're all in this together. X

Eloethan Tue 07-Jul-20 23:42:58

I have seen some posts that I really dislike and feel strongly about but I haven't been especially aware of "personal" attacks. What threads are these supposed to be on?

Luckygirl Tue 07-Jul-20 23:16:33

Thank you for that. It is very dispiriting to start a thread and then have to sit back and watch unpleasant things said. There is the temptation to feel somehow responsible when you have initiated the thread.

MissAdventure Tue 07-Jul-20 22:15:25

Threads about the most inane subjects can get out of hand.
It's about time it was kept in check a bit.

Dollymc2 Tue 07-Jul-20 22:04:58

I always try to be respectful, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to tolerate those who defend the killing fields that this Government preside over
Johnson's comments trying to blame carers for the excess deaths in care homes is quite frankly disgusting. Look at him, standing there, clapping for them...
I'm pretty sure that if I had voted for him, I would, indeed, be questioning his competence, not defending him
People are frightened, we are being led by liars, the far right ERG
It's hardly surprising that threads can get out hand

Peardrop50 Tue 07-Jul-20 19:59:50

Gosh. A one word post 'irony' has been deleted.

Nannying of Gransnet, who'd have thought.

There are lots of gentle and kind threads for more kind and gentle souls to follow and I agree we must all be more sensitive to those going through tough times, but surely politics threads can be a bit rough, we are all big boys and girls and can handle the cut and thrust.

I for one will not be kind and gentle to posters who are racist, to posters who deliberately pick on gentler souls or those who wish sickness and even death to our political leaders whichever side of the debate.

annep1 Tue 07-Jul-20 19:45:11

Point taken.

I agree with * Oldwoman*

Marydoll Tue 07-Jul-20 19:17:40

surfsup, if someone posts a lot, they may seem to own the site. If someone lurks, no-one will get to know them.

You won't find any intimidation on the Good Morning thread or Soop's kitchen. Everyone is welcomed there.

surfsup Tue 07-Jul-20 19:03:28

I have only posted a few times but do lurk. There are some members who seem to 'own' this site and I find some of their intimidation and cliquey behaviour rather off-putting.

Callistemon Tue 07-Jul-20 18:41:10

FarNorth

I've seen someone say, occasionally, that their post was deleted and they don't know why.
A link to GN guidelines is not always enough.
I think it would be useful for GN to say, either in the deleted post or directly to the person, what exactly the reason was.

I have never had a post deleted, btw, so it's not sour grapes from me.

GNHQ were very nice about it, in fact almost apologetic!
Thanks Lara

tickingbird Tue 07-Jul-20 18:40:31

I haven’t read this before but reading now I’m amazed that posts are being deleted on this thread! Mind boggling.

Grandad1943 Tue 07-Jul-20 17:26:17

lemongrove, make that a Contreau and Brandy for me and a large glass of Pinot Grigio for my wife and we will be right over. ??

Lucca Tue 07-Jul-20 17:20:44

Marydoll. True it was getting fractious but interestingly from posters from both sides of the politics spectrum (that sounds odd). So honours even !

lemongrove Tue 07-Jul-20 17:16:38

Setting up a pint of pernod with a cherry in right now for you Grandad ?

Marydoll Tue 07-Jul-20 17:16:09

Grandad, you would be eaten alive in the Argy! I hope you have your body armour on. Under no circumstances, wear a uniform. wink

On a more serious note, I despaired when I saw the thread was heading the same way as the type Lara posted about. sad

Grandad1943 Tue 07-Jul-20 17:11:29

lemongrove, I may pop into the Argy Bargy Bar now knowing that. I always have enjoyed a bit of Argy Bargy. ??

That was another joke GN. ?

Lucca Tue 07-Jul-20 17:08:00

What I’d like is if posters are asked for clarification of their post they actually reply? Eg. “ABC. Should be banned”
I ask “what do you mean exactly? Why shouldABC be banned ?
Then nothing.

lemongrove Tue 07-Jul-20 17:06:50

Thanks Glory wine you should pop into the Argy Bargy Bar for a drink with us, in spite of the name it’s a place of great good humour and happiness.

Glorybee Tue 07-Jul-20 17:03:16

I no longer post as I’m busy catching up with all the things I should have done weeks ago, but found the political threads quite unpleasant quite often anyway.

I do enjoy your posts and sense of humour Lemongrove!

I also agree with trisher that threads are being deleted to readily.

Lucca Tue 07-Jul-20 17:00:57

GillT57

Can I just pop my head over the parapet and say that I don't want Gn to become bland and boring? Anyone who doesn't like the rough and tumble of the political threads is quite at liberty to avoid them! I agree that personal attacks are unnecessary but sometimes it is worth referencing a name in one's reply in order that others can know whose opinion one is agreeing or disagreeing with ( without nastiness of course).

Agree