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Peasblossom Mon 02-Aug-21 09:10:44

The language threads are still there for anyone who wants them.

Just not on Active.

Ellianne Mon 02-Aug-21 09:02:24

grin
Now there's a thought!

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 02-Aug-21 09:00:17

My French isn’t good enough for me to have partipated but I would have thought it was a bit of fun for French speakers who haven’t had much chance to converse for a while. Why on earth would anyone report it and why would GNHQ delete it? That’s very upsetting for EP. Perhaps non-French speakers on here and at HQ thought some dastardly terrorist plot was being discussed!

Ellianne Mon 02-Aug-21 08:53:36

sodapop a raison EP.
The French threads which have a limited life, like the passé simple one, just die a natural death anyway when people don't contribute to them.

MawBe Mon 02-Aug-21 08:53:15

If a thread is not popular or does not grab the imagination, it quickly drops down the Active Conversations page and sinks without trace.
Popular threads which exceed 1000 posts often have to be reinvented in a Mark2 format. Some like Soops Kitchen enjoy regular “reincarnations” smile This self selection has worked well enough up till now.
Are you saying EP that your French threads have been deleted?
Perhaps this was meant as a “friendly” heads-up by HQ, but I do not believe anybody can stop a thread being started provided it doesn’t breach regs. If nobody wants to contribute it will soon die a death.
Avanti! Parliamo Italiano!

sodapop Mon 02-Aug-21 08:49:33

For goodness sake some people are really trigger happy with the report button..
Of course there are threads on GN which don't interest everyone but providing they are not unpleasant just walk on by.
Don't let this stop you enjoying GN EP maybe just stick to one thread about a subject you enjoy.

Ellianne Mon 02-Aug-21 08:44:09

That is preposterous if GN thought the threads were cliquey.
I started the German one for a bit of fun - for example, discussing our favourite towns. Um Gottes Willen what is wrong with that sort of chat?
Someone is either incensed because they can't understand the language, or jealous that they didn't think of the idea first and that EP got a new ball rolling.
Anyone for a few threads in Chinese?

eazybee Mon 02-Aug-21 08:43:56

I am sorry, Elderly person that your french thread met with criticism. I have been following it and developing my vocabulary it although my french is not good enough to make a contribution.

Galaxy Mon 02-Aug-21 08:32:34

If GN is anything like MN they are aware of which forums gain the most hits so they are aware which forums are more popular, although not narrowed down to threads.

BlueBelle Mon 02-Aug-21 08:28:54

Strange for someone to complain about that
I don’t speak another language so I just walked on by, so to speak I did French and Latin at school but didn’t enjoy either I have enough trouble speaking English and never had an ear for languages I admire those that do though
Normally hq only delete a threads that are breaking the rules
I m not sure what rules it was breaking unless it was because it was growing, two in French, one German I think I saw
It didn’t bother me and others seemed to be enjoying it
Just like I often see thread titles that don’t interest me so I keep going past them and ignore them

So it’s a bit of a mystery Have you asked HQ for an explanation

I think people who report should be brave enough to own it I think I ve only mainly reported advertising or definite troll post and then I write reported in the next post space

silverlining48 Mon 02-Aug-21 08:24:57

I am sorry to hear this, and don’t see the problem. I enjoyed seeing how much I understood of others’ French posts, it was interesting and a pleasant change from some, which if I have no interest in, I just ignore and pass on. Don’t let it bother you.

Calendargirl Mon 02-Aug-21 08:13:58

Perhaps whoever complained felt that the posts were a bit cliquey, in that only those who understood the language concerned could take part? Made them feel rather inferior?

Only my opinion, it wasn’t me! They didn’t interest me, so I just passed them by, which is what I do with any threads that don’t.

FannyCornforth Mon 02-Aug-21 07:54:52

To be honest EP, that does sound a tad over the top!

GNHQ (which I believe is actual Mumsnet) doesn’t have the time or inclination to go in depth into what we think, like, want, don’t want.

The management has a bit of a reputation for being both fickle and heavy handed in their responses (especially where bans are concerned).
Don’t take it personally!

ElderlyPerson Mon 02-Aug-21 07:46:43

Well what GNHQ got about the threads about French was acted upon by GNHQ.

No discussion or seeking the other side of the matter before a decision was made.

So no opportunity for those who enjoyed the threads about French to provide their view before a ruling was made.

So no threads about Italian or any other language.

I consider that the format of several threads, the café, the garden, the story using the past historic tense, the garden for the story, the patio for beginners was structured and a sensible way to improve the experience. But it got reported and that was that for other languages too.

There is nothing like a bit of grumbling and thud attitude to spoil opportunities for others.

FannyCornforth Mon 02-Aug-21 07:44:01

Perhaps you could post your Italian thread in the ‘Education’ sub-forum (just the one thread, mind you!)
That’s what I’d do.
Off the top of my head, I can already think of two particular posters who would really enjoy an Italian language thread. ??

FannyCornforth Mon 02-Aug-21 07:38:06

Sorry EP, I cross posted with you there.
I’m also sorry to hear that someone has reported your threads.
It must have been quite upsetting to receive that email.
Please don’t let it stop you posting.
There are some very unpleasant people on here I’m afraid flowers

FannyCornforth Mon 02-Aug-21 07:34:32

BlueBelle is correct.

GNHQ (whatever that is) is not interested in gaining ‘feedback’.

ElderlyPerson Mon 02-Aug-21 07:31:12

My thinking is that recently I had an email from GNHQ that there had been complaints about the threads that I had started.

Just that there were several about French.

Yet some people clearly enjoyed those threads.

The threads were harmless and there are many threads by lots of people, so reporting those few in the great number of threads just because they existed and were specific about various aspects of learning French in various ways, not because of content, was, in my opinion, unreasonable.

Some people clearly enjoyed those threads and the moaning by some other people has inhibited enjoyment.

So my idea to start some threads for Italian, a café and an accompanying garden has not happened, as a direct result of the reporting of the French threads.

So I am just having a moan about it as the GNHQ ruling only took in one set of views.

BlueBelle Mon 02-Aug-21 06:55:26

The point of reporting a post is mainly to have it removed because it breaks the rules ….you don’t report a post to say it’s good, there isn’t a top 10 of posts
Everyone has a different opinion of what’s good but most people would agree if a post was racist, homophobic swearing, derogative or hateful

I don’t really understand your thinking
Would you go to the police to say you had a helpful neighbour

ElderlyPerson Mon 02-Aug-21 06:40:17

Every thread has a link to report the thread to GNHQ.

Yet no link to inform GNHQ that one thinks that a thread is good.

Every post has a link to report the post to GNHQ.

Yet no link to inform GNHQ that one thinks that a post is good.

So GNHQ may well get unbalanced feedback.