Hello from GNHQ

kittylester

I suggest that GNHQ try not to be taken in by cliques complaining about cliques. It's just plain silly. FGS we are grown women!!!!!

We may be grown women, but if people are being banned from posting because of board politics it's not a level playing field. Those wielding the banning axe need to know what is happening if they don't monitor the boards.

I never have a clue about cliques or what's going on as regards so-called 'bullying' and I'm on here several times a week, so if HQ wait for a report they will just be getting a snapshot of any interaction. Also, if lurkers are able to comment on contributors and get them banned, the system is never going to be fair.

Personally, I'd rather we were left to our own devices other than if something is posted that could make GN liable to prosecution, but if people are going to be banned for their behaviour towards other posters then I don't think it's silly for all sides to want to be heard.

I would suggest that, if there is one 'secret world' that there must be two.

One of my pet hates is people who are not honest and come back with 'clandestine' names, the same posting style but try changing their 'background'.

I suggest that GNHQ try not to be taken in by cliques complaining about cliques. It's just plain silly. FGS we are grown women!!!!!

It's much more problematic on Mn because its involved in some very contentious discussions and have people posting the discussions on Twitter, etc. The rules are therefore much stricter on MN in my view.

I don’t go on Mumsnet so don’t know do they get such micro managing ?

“ Having said that, we'll be removing some of the posts that refer to old fallouts/bans/threads - feel free to email us about any issues but this thread isn't the best place for them. ”

I thought this thread was about suggestions for improving the site ??

Where are the replies to those suggestions?

Well no its nothing to do with age it's to do with being on an internet forum where you cant have a situation of anything goes.

? that exactly ???

Having said that, we'll be removing some of the posts that refer to old fallouts/bans/threads - feel free to email us about any issues but this thread isn't the best place for them

And thereby stands the problem we are such little old ladies that we cannot possible sort ourselves out and ‘need’ a grown up to look out for us
Head in hands ?

Well put FarNorth, thank you.
We are a lovely lot in the main, honest!

Hi Soniagransnet.
The reason for meandering into chit chat about other topics was, I think, that there seemed to be no interest from GNHQ in our actual suggestions (as usual).

So now you've got to know us as a bunch of grumpy grans on this thread.

Yes it's not pleasant.

GillT57 I'm glad I'm not the only person who's spotted that. It's relentless, which qualifies as bullying.

Soniagransnet

Hi - just dropping in to say thanks for all the comments and feedback.

We are post moderated, so if you come across any posts that you feel break the talk guidelines, please just hit 'report' on the post in question and we'll be happy to take a look.

Thank you. The problem is the people concerned are careful not to be blatant, just lots of little questions, designed to poke at the victim, but not really obvious to anyone glancing at the thread. Reporting someone for asking if you live in the UK, for example, sounds pathetic, but if this is the reply to every post you make, constantly undermining your opinion on everything, dismissing you as irrelevant as 'you don't live in the UK I think?' well, that is very different. For example.

I do think that allegations of bullying are exaggerated.

I also think lillie's post is very good.

I've witnessed it too. There was an example within the last couple of days. The poster(s) involved in the bullying really does seem to lead a sad life.

I've not seen the bullying spoken of here and I'm very sorry to hear that it has been happening.
Even if there is any sort of 'backstory' that's no excuse for nastiness.

I'd say that if someone can't make an opposing point, without being nasty, they must be quite stupid.

Kali2

Blossoming

There is definitely a secret world of Gransnet that I’m not party to!

There is - the dark side. It is NOT pleasant. And a few people in very many different names and guises, have been attacking the same person for a very long time.

They don't like the fact she was not born in the UK.
They don't like the fact she returned 'back home' to her country of birth to look after her elderly and sick parents.

Despite the fact she is British for nearly 50 years and lived in England for all her adult life. British OH, British children and grand-children, British Degree and British career in State edu. But that is not enough, apparently.

So they hound, and they fish, and they prod, and they attack- each thread, each post. Because apparently unless you were born British on British soil, and you currently live away, you have no right to an opinion on the country that became theirs and that they spent their life contributing to in so many ways.

It is, what it is- as Gagajo says, it is all very clear for most to see.

Not pleasant.

I agree. Very nasty to witness, and then when the victim announced she was leaving there were all sorts of sneery comments. Not one of GNs finest moments, and there were a few women who should be ashamed of themselves, but won't be I expect. The person concerned was very kind to me when I was targeted once, she knew how I felt.

Lillie your post at 10.41 was one of the nicest, kindest and most pragmatic post I've read in a long time. I'm so glad that your family found GB to be a safe haven, where a good life and future could be built; that you recognise the positives here and don't focus on the negatives. Such a refreshing change from the usual bashing we see. Thank you.

Oh, that explains a lot.

I am oblivious to a lot of the 'politics' on here, and a bit baffled when I see references to undercurrents that other people know all about, but even I have noticed that whatever Kali2 posts is picked on. I think I've queried this before when I saw it happen on a thread and was bewildered by it.

There may well be a backstory of which I am unaware, so I won't keep digging, but the unpleasantness is very noticeable.

the uk saved my family and i will be eternally grateful to it for providing the best education and lifestyle for my family. I have hopefully contributed a tiny bit to the country which gave my family so much
Yours is a heartfelt post too, Lillie and I feel proud that we, as a country, were able to help you and your family.
i see many imperfections in the uk and do get frustrated but i refuse to constantly bash it
What a sensible attitude…..

aw kali2 that is a heartfelt post and i do understand

i dont know you as well as some on here but as i understand it you came to the uk from europe and now live back in maybe france

you like to post opinions on the uk which is interesting and of course allowed even if from a distance

i too am a sort of half foreigner too
jewish not born in england
the uk saved my family and i will be eternally grateful to it for providing the best education and lifestyle for my family
i have hopefully contributed a tiny bit to the country which gave my family so much

i see many imperfections in the uk and do get frustrated but i refuse to constantly bash it
its government is fair game to criticise but not so many of the other institutions and traditions

maybe that is an explanation for the different posts you receive from your different comments

i really dont know but i hope you can end this or one of the other threads you are on on a happier note

See, if we had an edit button the thread of IT could be promoted to Head, whether she’s there on work experience or not ?