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Beswitched Tue 15-Feb-22 21:13:32

Really riled about this. A poster started a thread earlier today about bossy pisters trying to control threads. A lot of other posters agreed and said they too had often been made to feel uncomfortable, belittled or jeered at by a minority of posters.

A couple of posters then came on accusing the OP of stirring it and saying people should Name names. Other pisters quite rightly pointed out that this was inappropriate and against rules. The thread was then abruptly zapped as 'not being in the spirit...'

Concerned, I started a thread wondering about the zapping and requesting an explanation. Again a majority of posters agreedand also asjed for an explanation. Again, a couple of posters came on saying they didn't like the original thread, and also objected to my thread.

Once again HQ zapped the thread with no proper explanation. What is going on here!

Ro60 Thu 17-Feb-22 11:52:35

It does show how much we rely on other social signals in a conversation - those that we can't see on a forum - like eye contact, a smile, body language and also knowing the person.

GillT57 Thu 17-Feb-22 11:46:08

I agree Beswitched. Posters who pop onto N&P threads which are raging away nicely, and say they have better things to do. Well, then off you pop! I wouldn't go onto a knitting thread and tell people how boring it is.

Doodledog Thu 17-Feb-22 11:44:08

Something I hate and always do call out is posters coming onto a thread to inform the OP that they have no interest in the topic of their thread, or their problem is a 1st World one, or they really must have very little to worry about. It's so rude and unnecessary. If you're not interested in a thread just ignore it. Why try to belittle and insult the OP?

Agreed. We live in a first world country, so of course we have first world problems. It's such a facile insult.

Beswitched Thu 17-Feb-22 11:37:06

Thanks Ro60 smilesmile

Ro60 Thu 17-Feb-22 11:33:16

Beswitched Well said ? ? from your no. 1 Pister ? some folk just can't let things go - my best new word. X

Beswitched Thu 17-Feb-22 11:05:55

BlueBelle

You right a good post on page one no replies and page two someone says the same thing and everyone replies to it ??

Yes I always feel a bit "but, but... I already said that and no one's quoted meeee and posted 'well said Beswitched '.".

Then I remember I'm not three years old and let it go smile

Something I hate and always do call out is posters coming onto a thread to inform the OP that they have no interest in the topic of their thread, or their problem is a 1st World one, or they really must have very little to worry about. It's so rude and unnecessary. If you're not interested in a thread just ignore it. Why try to belittle and insult the OP?

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JaneJudge Thu 17-Feb-22 09:58:25

to attract the seagulls

MaizieD Thu 17-Feb-22 09:53:54

VioletSky

I've just looked it up

It refers to people putting a chip of wood on their shoulder and challenging others to knock it off.

I thought that it meant a chip missing out of your shoulder lol

That seems like a pretty pointless exercise ?

Why would anyone put a chip on their shoulder?

trisher Thu 17-Feb-22 09:52:38

I think the "ignoring" being mentioned is not the just not posting an answer to someone who has posted an opinion but ignoring someone's intervention into an established discussion. It may be that a poster misses the odd post but there is no doubt sometimes that some posts are ignored deliberately, any more than there is any doubt that sometimes posts are misconstrued so a poster can develop their own arguments.

For the record GSM I did not say VS had called you a Nazi I said I failed to understand why it was OK to call me a communist but not OK to call anyone a Nazi. No one was named in that statement.

The second part of my post about what trans inclusive supporters (and God knows there aren't many of us on GN I sometimes wonder how restricted some people's lives are) gives names we have all been called. The interesting bit is that those responsible never accept the responsibility but palm it off in pretending to be nice posts.

Personally I know what I think of people I know what I call them. I would never dispute the fact that they believe they are feminist. I do dispute the fact that they are radical feminists. Radical has always been used for new, innovative and progressive ideas. There's nothing progressive about persecuting minorities, it's as old as the patriarchy. Radical has a deep and meaningful history and I strongly object to its misuse.

VioletSky Thu 17-Feb-22 09:48:14

I've just looked it up

It refers to people putting a chip of wood on their shoulder and challenging others to knock it off.

I thought that it meant a chip missing out of your shoulder lol

VioletSky Thu 17-Feb-22 09:44:36

smile

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 17-Feb-22 09:43:59

Bad reputation? I didn’t know that. Not so far as I’m concerned anyway.

VioletSky Thu 17-Feb-22 09:40:39

I just don't like being lumped in with others and I've had a... Let's just say... Bad reputation on gransnet that has spread to some quarters unfairly

I'll go fill the chip on my shoulder lol

I still have no idea what that saying means

Doodledog Thu 17-Feb-22 09:35:48

Germanshepherdsmum

For the record VS did not call me a bigot or a Nazi, that’s not her style. Those who did know who they are. Can we draw a line under this now before there’s further unpleasantness?

In the spirit of responding to others’posts, can I just point out that I did say you hadn’t ?

And JaneJudge ??

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 17-Feb-22 09:32:21

Spot on VS. I find reading them exhausting.

VioletSky Thu 17-Feb-22 09:30:39

Happy to draw a line

I really should avoid those threads entirely because there doesn't seem to be a way to just kindly say what I think without being dragged in to an exhausting discussion where no one is actually really listening to each other, just looking for bits to pick out and argue against

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 17-Feb-22 09:17:53

For the record VS did not call me a bigot or a Nazi, that’s not her style. Those who did know who they are. Can we draw a line under this now before there’s further unpleasantness?

JaneJudge Thu 17-Feb-22 09:15:01

I just said that wink

Doodledog Thu 17-Feb-22 09:12:45

BlueBelle

You right a good post on page one no replies and page two someone says the same thing and everyone replies to it ??

Yes, that can be annoying- particularly when the post starts ‘I haven’t read the thread, but . . .’ and then repeats what you have already said, and gets lots of replies.

It’s the way of forums like this though.

VioletSky Thu 17-Feb-22 09:10:00

My goodness

No one on the trans threads is perfect

Lol

Doodledog Thu 17-Feb-22 09:09:59

Sorry! I type slowly on my phone, and I missed several posts. My last one was in response to JaneJudge’s above which quoted trisher.

BlueBelle Thu 17-Feb-22 09:09:26

You right a good post on page one no replies and page two someone says the same thing and everyone replies to it ??

Doodledog Thu 17-Feb-22 09:07:27

Good point JaneJudge.

Also, claiming a belief in ‘equality and the rights of others’ for oneself is something of a dirty trick, as it sets up a binary, and suggests that those who disagree with the point being made support inequality and don’t care about the rights of others.

It is that sort of behaviour (and there is a lot of it on ‘trans threads’) that makes me so vociferous on them. I am happy to be disagreed with, but not to be misrepresented, or to be ‘set up’ in that underhand way. I try not to be nasty, but I won’t sit back and say nothing when those tricks are played. It diverts from the topic, and I know it can be tedious when there is more argument about below the belt debating ‘tactics’ than about the actual issues, but what’s the alternative?

JaneJudge Thu 17-Feb-22 09:06:26

I am always a bit hmm when some writes an identical post to you and is acknowledged but you are ignored.

Not really, I don't care

Galaxy Thu 17-Feb-22 09:04:32

Or perhaps it's just laziness I often think oh I agree with that, that's just what I wanted to say, but I often dont bother to write that.