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Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 13:05:17

I have been prompted to post this, after having some concerns I have had over the last few days about pictures of grandchildren on several threads on this forum.

The internet safety advice from the authorities is not to post pictures of children on public forums, even more so. if they are wearing school uniforms. This makes them easily identifiable to paedophiles. We could only have back or side views of pupils on our school website, with no names included. That advice came from the LA.
I was responsible for internet safety in my school and involved in LA initiatives. Some of the scenarios, we were told about at Police Scotland training programmes, would horrify you.

This is one of the first things we alerted parents to, when I delivered internet safety advice to parents in my school.
It was also continuously reinforced to our pupils, not to post their pictures and even more so, their real names.
Photos on forums, like GN can be easily manipulated.
I am always uneasy when posters on here do it.
I have done it once, when it was a wedding photo, no names and even more importantly, with the permission of the parents.
I would hope, that no poster would post a picture of their grandchild, without the parents' permission.

I can't believe how naive some posters are.
In saying that, it is a sad reflection of our time, when we cannot share the joy of having grandchildren. sad

Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 14:21:26

Of course parents must take more responsibility. However, my time was never wasted helping them to sort out a problem of their own making.
The safety of a child supercedes everthing else.

Riverwalk Tue 03-May-22 14:29:58

In the overall scheme of things, any child whose photo appears on here is unlikely to come to any direct harm as a result, although their privacy could be comprised.

But I just do not want to be responsible for any image of my grandchildren to be misused or become w*nk fodder for a paedophile.

nanna8 Tue 03-May-22 14:34:19

But how do you know that Riverwalk? Anyone could join this site or simply just watch it. Mary doll is right. I often worry when my children post pics of the kids on Facebook but this site is much more public.

volver Tue 03-May-22 14:37:10

Slightly off topic, but related.

There are people on this site using their actual name as their username.

Generally, people have no idea how exposed they are on social media and I am grateful for the comments from Marydoll.

DaisyAnne Tue 03-May-22 14:39:43

Marydoll

My post was not meant to criticize anyone, but to alert posters to the implications and ramifications of posting pictures of children. I have been thinking of posting my concerns for weeks. Today's deleted thread prompted me to do so.
Its easy for me to preach about it, I have had extensive training on this subject and had a duty of care to parents, staff and pupils. Call me an internet safety evangelist! ?

Good thread topic Marydoll

Which thread was deleted? I missed it.

The easiest thing to remember is that you should not post a picture anywhere without the persons consent. In the case of a child that means the parents consent.

There are more secure sites where you can share family photos but I am always suprised how many post children's photos on Face Book. It's a useful place for information but not for exchanging photographs. The same applies to Instagram.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 03-May-22 14:40:29

I have thought exactly that ever since I have been on this site.

kittylester Tue 03-May-22 14:41:34

Who volver?

OakDryad Tue 03-May-22 14:43:51

Marydoll

I meant to add that GNHQ have a duty of care too!!
I'm on a roll now! ?

Agreed. They should monitor the forums proactively not reactively as a result of member reporting. They should tighten up their software controls and their enrolment policy.

volver Tue 03-May-22 14:44:31

kittylester

Who volver?

Well telling everyone who it was would be kind of counterproductive... confused

But anyone who is doing it might want to think about it.

Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 14:44:42

I once read a post, on which someone had posted a picture of their grandchildren in school uniform, with the name of the children's school, clearly seen on the sweatshirts. They also named those children.?
It may be highly unlikely that anything happens, but that would still be unaccptable in my opinon.
Its the manipulation of photos and total breach of he child's privacy which concerns me. Once on the internet, it is there forever!
Many on here are unaware of how advanced technology is nowadays.
How many know about a reverse image search on Google?

Riverwalk Tue 03-May-22 14:52:09

nanna8

But how do you know that Riverwalk? Anyone could join this site or simply just watch it. Mary doll is right. I often worry when my children post pics of the kids on Facebook but this site is much more public.

You seem not to have read my post properly.

Antonia Tue 03-May-22 14:57:20

Images of children can be photoshopped to become very offensive.
Plus there is the issue of consent. Young children have no control over what images of them are posted.

Riverwalk Tue 03-May-22 14:57:43

volver

Slightly off topic, but related.

There are people on this site using their actual name as their username.

Generally, people have no idea how exposed they are on social media and I am grateful for the comments from Marydoll.

There is only one that I know of - she's an educated professional and been posting for many years and am sure knows what she's doing!

AGAA4 Tue 03-May-22 15:07:16

Thankfully there was a teacher at my GCs school who was talked about the dangers of photos of children being on the internet. This was about ten years ago and I'm sure it is worse now.
I never upload photos anywhere as the thought of a pedophile or group of them ogling my GCs makes me feel ill.

AGAA4 Tue 03-May-22 15:07:57

has talked

TerriBull Tue 03-May-22 15:30:59

I absolutely agree with the OP, I think it's wrong to post pictures of children on social media sites for all the reasons mentioned. I always wonder why people think it's ok to do that, aside from any potential danger in doing such a thing may present, does it not occur to those people that the baby/child when it matures might be less than happy that their images have been displayed in a public way? It's not as if they can make an informed choice about it when they are very young, it's hardly like getting the family photo album out to auntie whoever when she drops round for a cup of tea.

It's been discussed before, but personally I think famous people who put their children's lives out there for the whole world to view are irresponsible firstly towards their children and secondly because quite possibly they influence others to emulate all of that, albeit in a smaller way.

AreWeThereYet Tue 03-May-22 15:32:05

On the same theme but slightly off piste (sorry Marydoll ), three dogs were snatched in out village a few months ago. The police think it was following photos on our local village Facebook page, where one was photographed in it's very recognisable garden. The other two lived close by. The Facebook page is a closed group. They were taken from their gardens on the same day while the owners were at home. Possibly one was targetted (the well known house) and the other two were just chance. Who knows. People forget that there are bad people living quite near them, who see their usually quite innocuous postings and get information from them.

Farmor15 Tue 03-May-22 15:34:38

There's a good article here by a paediatrician - it's more about parents using their children to market their lifestyle/product placement etc but also about the dangers:
www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/healthandwellbeing/arid-40861739.html
For younger children the issue is that they can't consent to the use of their images.

kittylester Tue 03-May-22 15:37:46

Riverwalk, I can only think of one person, too.

Shelflife Tue 03-May-22 16:09:18

Well posted Marydoll. I wouldn't dream of posting photos of my GC .
It does appear that many people are completely unaware of the dangers associated with posting photos online. I hope now that you have raised awareness !

Zoejory Tue 03-May-22 16:17:42

I feel like I've regressed 25 years. I remember when my children's primary school wanted to include children. Some parents were opposed. Fair enough.

But where are we now? Some paedo is hardly going to look on GN. They can look on social media, local press, competitions for bonniest babies in magazines.

Once our children get to about 11 or 12 they post 50 selfies a day.

Tik tok? Have you looked at TikTok? The amount of happy GPs with their GC? All out there for the world to see.

Take a look at it.

People in thee street. On the beach, In the park. I got a photo of a grandchild and another unknown child was there.

Fighting a losing battle here.

I don't think pedos are the worry here.

volver Tue 03-May-22 16:28:29

Some paedo is hardly going to look on GN.

What a sweet, innocent world you inhabit Zoejory. But I guess you know better than people who actually have specialised in this kind of thing, people like MaryDoll for instance.

Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 16:35:27

I never said paedophiles were Zoejory. There are a number of reasons for not posting photos on GN.
I was raising awareness, nothing else. I wonder how many on here actually have permission to post their grandchildrens' photos.

Your post implies my own personal development, training of staff, parents and interventions were a complete waste of time, if we are fighting a losing battle.
Part the problems, you mention, are due to parents, who actually have no idea what their children are doing online or on social media.

Of course, your post is as valid as anyone else's on here, but hasn't made me think any differently.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 03-May-22 16:35:28

I imagine a paedophile would consider GN might be a good hunting ground. And that’s been proved correct hasn’t it?

Polly73 Tue 03-May-22 16:38:44

Germanshepherdsmum

I imagine a paedophile would consider GN might be a good hunting ground. And that’s been proved correct hasn’t it?

Why? Have we evidence of paedophile use here?