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Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 13:05:17

I have been prompted to post this, after having some concerns I have had over the last few days about pictures of grandchildren on several threads on this forum.

The internet safety advice from the authorities is not to post pictures of children on public forums, even more so. if they are wearing school uniforms. This makes them easily identifiable to paedophiles. We could only have back or side views of pupils on our school website, with no names included. That advice came from the LA.
I was responsible for internet safety in my school and involved in LA initiatives. Some of the scenarios, we were told about at Police Scotland training programmes, would horrify you.

This is one of the first things we alerted parents to, when I delivered internet safety advice to parents in my school.
It was also continuously reinforced to our pupils, not to post their pictures and even more so, their real names.
Photos on forums, like GN can be easily manipulated.
I am always uneasy when posters on here do it.
I have done it once, when it was a wedding photo, no names and even more importantly, with the permission of the parents.
I would hope, that no poster would post a picture of their grandchild, without the parents' permission.

I can't believe how naive some posters are.
In saying that, it is a sad reflection of our time, when we cannot share the joy of having grandchildren. sad

kittylester Tue 03-May-22 16:38:49

I can understand people's concerns but I do think it is sad that some people live their life in fear of dire consequences and not with joy.

Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 16:40:06

There will always be those on here, who just don't get it and think people like me are over reacting.
I dreaded having to deal with incidents. You need to be proactive, supportive and sympathetic, but upfront about the consequences.

Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 16:42:50

kittylester

I can understand people's concerns but I do think it is sad that some people live their life in fear of dire consequences and not with joy.

Thats not what I am advocating, Kitty. It's common sense to be careful. If anyone wants to share photos, do it privately.

Zoejory Tue 03-May-22 16:43:17

I certainly do get it, Marydoll

Worked with enough traumatic cases in my life.

None of which were due to photos posted by innocent relatives on social media

Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 16:46:57

Zoejory

I certainly do get it, Marydoll

Worked with enough traumatic cases in my life.

None of which were due to photos posted by innocent relatives on social media

You are indeed fortunate!

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 03-May-22 16:49:07

I absolutely agree Marydoll. The world of today is not the innocent one of our youth. Paedophiles are found with many thousands of images of children downloaded to their computers. Each one has come from somewhere on the internet, not all are indecent. I don’t have grandchildren but if I did there is little more repulsive than thinking their photos had been downloaded to enable a pervert to satisfy his fantasies about young children.

Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 16:56:48

I should have clarified my comment. I have been involved in some deeply disturbing incidents. Obviously I can't reveal anything, apart from the fact it still upsets me even now. It involved social media and was totally avoidable.

Millie22 Tue 03-May-22 17:21:44

I agree with you Marydoll. This is the internet after all where anybody can read anything not a cosy little chat between friends. I think people forget that sometimes.

Zoejory Tue 03-May-22 17:36:02

You are indeed fortunate!

The whole team must have been fortunate. I do honestly believe that there are very few photos being lifted from FB or the like when there are so many other easier avenues to go down.

In the news last year there was a dreadful article a 3 year old being raped by one of their carers at Nursery. Several others were sexually assaulted. You'd have hoped they'd have been safe there. I'm sure you are aware of the hideous internet gangs that pass this footage freely.

I mention that one as it was in the news. Nothing to do with my team either. But it's simplistic to think that all these men (and woman) want is a few pictures off GN.

Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 17:39:52

How many times do I need to say this? My post was not solely about paedophiles lifting photos from GN.
Have you actually read what I have written?

volver Tue 03-May-22 17:45:32

Sorry to interrupt Marydoll. I've just been educating myself about this and I found this old article from Australia.

Senior investigator at the eSafety Commissioner, Toby Dagg, said that on one site with at least 45 million images "about half the material appeared to be sourced directly from social media"

While photos copied from social media would not be considered exploitation material on their own, they were often accompanied by comments that explicitly sexualise the children.

www.smh.com.au/national/millions-of-social-media-photos-found-on-child-exploitation-sharing-sites-20150929-gjxe55.html

Bizarre that anybody thinks this is not something to be worried about.

Pepper59 Tue 03-May-22 17:48:24

A good post Marydoll. I never put family pictures up anywhere.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 03-May-22 17:50:11

A good bit of research volver. If that doesn’t convince doubters nothing will.

timetogo2016 Tue 03-May-22 17:54:47

Your spot on Marydoll.
Great informative post.

OakDryad Tue 03-May-22 18:09:51

Every time anyone uses a search engine, web bots scan content on webpages all over the internet and that will include this insecure site. I wonder if people realise that even when a thread and its contents have been deleted from this forum, the images remain on the internet. The baby picture that accompanied the now deleted thread about comforters is still there.

Parsley3 Tue 03-May-22 18:15:53

Thank you Marydoll for raising this issue and sharing your personal experience of the consequences of thoughtless posting.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 03-May-22 18:16:03

Yes. I worried about that one.

Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 18:17:58

Thank you Volver, for taking the time to research and to all of those who see the point of my post and have not dismissed my concerns.
At the beginning of the academic year, embedded in our IT programme and using UK government materials, (not just Scottish ones) we had a whole term dedicated to keeping safe online. Someone must have thought it important enough to make it compulsory in the curriculum.

eazybee Tue 03-May-22 18:18:26

Anyone mentioned wedding photographs?
Very easily identifiable.

Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 18:20:42

eazybee

Anyone mentioned wedding photographs?
Very easily identifiable.

I forgot about that one eazybee.

Riverwalk Tue 03-May-22 18:25:08

Wedding photographs?

I'm not particularly worried about identity - more about a child's right to privacy.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 03-May-22 18:41:23

Just the child’s image on an open forum would worry me.

Urmstongran Tue 03-May-22 18:48:13

Thanks Marydoll for highlighting what concerned me when I posted pre-Covid about this on one of our more ‘cosy’ everyday threads. Some grans took umbrage saying in effect ‘I don’t post these photos without my ‘DD’s or DS’s permission’! Which missed the point to be honest. I did point out at the time why I didn’t do so and alluded to the reasons for my calling them out. I did notice subsequently far fewer photos of our wonderful little people. Here on an open forum is NOT the place for sharing under any circumstances. Proud grans we all are but let’s be mindful here people.

Marydoll Tue 03-May-22 18:50:44

? Urms.
I hope the sun is out! ?

Urmstongran Tue 03-May-22 18:52:02

It is! Thanks Marydoll ??