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Has anyone on GN got the right to give private information about you?

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Fleurpepper Mon 12-Dec-22 17:02:28

Surely not. People on GN should have the right to anonimity, unless they choose to divulge any private information, be it about profession, locality, ethnicity, or whatever.

Secondly, should any information given in a PM be fair game to share to other members? Surely not.

Callistemon21 Tue 13-Dec-22 17:18:04

GagaJo

Let's not forget this thread about someone breaking the confidence of another GN member. Anything else is speculation.

But that in itself is speculation and in all probability not true (as explained above).

It's really not very nice to point the finger at posters - it causes suspicion and wariness.

Years ago posters put photos of themselves on here so that we could visualise who we were chatting with, I can't imagine that happening now.

Callistemon21 Tue 13-Dec-22 17:29:21

VioletSky

The point is:

It's no one's business

Absolutely right!!

So it wasn't a good idea to start a thread with allegations against a non-specific poster with no evidence whatsoever that the suspicions are true.

In fact, there is ample evidence to the contrary.

VioletSky Tue 13-Dec-22 17:29:41

Every time someone says "that didn't happen" my mind immediately goes to the narcissists prayer

Callistemon21 Tue 13-Dec-22 17:36:05

Urmstongran

^All because you disliked the prior GN member^

That’s one big all encompassing leap GagoJo.
You don’t speak for me.

I didn’t then & don’t now. 👋

Me neither.

I may have argued with a certain poster who left but t doesn't mean I didn't miss her!
It would be a bland forum of nodding dogs if we all agreed all the time.

Anyway, we don't know for sure that she has returned.

FannyCornforth Tue 13-Dec-22 17:44:10

VioletSky

Every time someone says "that didn't happen" my mind immediately goes to the narcissists prayer

Does it now.
But enough about you. Tell me about me

VioletSky Tue 13-Dec-22 17:46:49

Lol

Joseanne Tue 13-Dec-22 17:55:19

Oh that's good. So the case is now closed, and we can all be amicable friendly again.
Just saying though, there may be times when a poster says something like, "I have a hunch you are ... or I have a sneaking suspicion you....", so a bit of guessing might occur without it being sinister.

Callistemon21 Tue 13-Dec-22 18:01:17

Fleurpepper

If you 'give things away', fair enough. I did not.

Information was asked by PM, with the assurance it would NOT go further. Simple enough, no?

From that post, I think we assumed you were referring to your own situation, Fleurpepper.

So are you now saying it was non-specific?

🤔

Fleurpepper Tue 13-Dec-22 18:11:19

Just an example, to illustrate my point about privacy.

If someone says they live in Scotland, fair enough to mention this in further posts.

If someone says they are Catholic, atheist, or Muslim, etc, fair enough to mention this in further posts.

If someone chooses to give any information about themselves, then fair enough to mention it.

Otherwise, as said above, it is nobody's business and should be respected.

And yes, if anyone is asked about personal info by pm, this info should not make it on the general Forum. Anyone, by anyone.

Callistemon21 Tue 13-Dec-22 18:13:44

And yes, if anyone is asked about personal info by pm, this info should not make it on the general Forum. Anyone, by anyone

Well, of course.

But it's hypothetical, then.

FannyCornforth Tue 13-Dec-22 18:13:54

VioletSky

Lol

Honestly, I’m sorry l, but do you do this ironically?
Has it got post modern meanings that I’m not aware of?

Urmstongran Tue 13-Dec-22 18:14:24

Well personally, I think we’ve reached Tipping Point on this topic now.

VioletSky Tue 13-Dec-22 18:15:16

Fanny I thought you were making a clever joke... maybe I misunderstood

kittylester Tue 13-Dec-22 18:24:27

If a poster is an obvious reincarnation and has been reincarnated a few times, it might be difficult to recall which version disclosed what and inadvertently mention something out of turn.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 13-Dec-22 18:26:27

I would never divulge personal information via a PM.

If I have an established and trusted relationship with another poster we exchange emails.

PM’s are not and have never been private GN can access them as and when they choose.

👋 pen pal

GagaJo Tue 13-Dec-22 18:38:39

Callistemon21

GagaJo

Callistemon21

Somehow, I think the lady doth protest too much. The louder she shouts, the more ears will hear that she has a secret, which she is not going to reveal to them, so there!

I doubt very much indeed that any secrets were revealed.

It's more likely that some posters have a very recognisable posting style; perhaps they may disappear for a while then return but other posters realise who they are and think they can chat on the same friendly terms they have done for years.

I think I saw the quote being referred to. It did comment on information being passed on by someone else. At the time, I thought ooooh, tattle but it wasn't about me, so...

That was Fleurpepper surmising, I think Gagajo.

If someone's posting style is instantly recognisable for whatever reason, then many others will realise when someone who left returns with another username.

No need for anyone to reveal "secrets" and I doubt very much that anyone did.

No, Callistemon. I saw a post from a GN member, giving information on another poster. I saw it myself before this all kicked off.

Clearly there had been behind the scenes gossiping. I could name a range of those I suspect are involved but won't because that would make me as inappropriate as them.

Doodledog Tue 13-Dec-22 18:51:25

This is getting like the 'Some Posters' thing.

We are told that someone amongst us is a rotter who betrays confidences, but we are not to be told who it is, nor what sort of confidence she has betrayed - we are to guess, and suspect one another, and quite possibly make the wrong assumption. In any event, we are all supposed to agree that a betrayal has, indeed, taken place, that this is Wrong, that the OP is a victim of bad behaviour, and that the secret is as exciting as being married to a film star.

I don't know who the old poster is, but having seen a post suggesting something not very personal about FP's location, I jumped to the conclusion that that must be the 'big secret', but only because of the OP - I wouldn't have noticed it otherwise.

The point is that none of this would have come to light had the OP not drawn attention to it herself, but it is also worth mentioning that there will be many people reading this who feel completely excluded from the thread, are seeing thread police telling others what to post, people accused of all sorts of things and it gives the impression that this is a cliquey site with a hierarchy of 'monitors'.

This happens every so often, and whereas nowadays I sometimes have a vague idea of what might be going on, I remember feeling like giving up on GN when I first started posting, as it felt like a secret club with rules I didn't understand.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 13-Dec-22 18:54:21

Good post DoodleDog sums up the thread.

GagaJo Tue 13-Dec-22 18:55:29

I think ultimately what this shows is that any GN member can trust no one on here. Regardless of how well you think you know them.

Things on here haven't been as nasty of late. But there can be bullying and victimising. There are members on here who have done it and been allowed back. All I would say to newer members is to be careful who they confide in. Not everyone can be taken at initial 'face' value.

Callistemon21 Tue 13-Dec-22 19:04:04

Doodledog

Very good summing up.
Sometimes GN feels like wading through treacle.


“And so, as Tiny Tim said, 'A Merry Christmas to us all; God bless us, everyone!”

Kalu Tue 13-Dec-22 19:08:24

Fleurpepper

Kalu

I have no idea which poster is being referred to by Fleurpepper
I personally feel the OP is the one who should be ashamed at starting a thread which she surely knew would inevitably cause Ill feeling and trouble. Of course it is the OP’s business but why start a thread to get everyone guessing ;
A. What is the OP’s secret
B. Who done it?

I never do as I am told either GagaJo.

This is not at all the aim of my post here, not to out one person or complain about one person. It is about a basic principle, not a guessing game, nor a blaming one.

If a poster has not given information about who they are, where they live, their religion, ethnicity, professional or other background- then posts should not regularly mention, allude or allege such.

If someone gives said info, be it locality, or other- then it is fair to allude to it in other posts. If that person does NOT give that information, then it should NOT.

If someone guessed, or was told by someone, that a poster is Jewish, should this be mentionned when the poster themselves have never said they were?

But, you have complained about one particular GN member which leaves others to guess which poster is to blame for revealing your secret. And, in previous posts, you have said what your nationality is and where you live including other personal facts.

This is no secret to many who, having known you for years can easily recognise you. I don’t understand why this is now a secret and you want to place the blame on one particular poster whoever he/she may be for revealing your secret.
I repeat, no one contacted me to reveal who you are, you revealed that to me yourself.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 13-Dec-22 19:16:38

If I were to be a conspiracy theorist I would say that this thread was all about trying to get a poster banned by any means, fair or foul.

MerylStreep Tue 13-Dec-22 19:19:35

GranyGravy
It wouldn’t be the first time.

Kalu Tue 13-Dec-22 19:25:55

I agree Meryl and GrannyGravy

GagaJo Tue 13-Dec-22 19:32:08

There are a few posters on here who have already been temporarily banned. They'd do well to remember that and keep their noses clean if they really rely on the site for friendship and support. They're not innocent victims by any means GG13.

New members haven't seen their shenanigans, but some of what has gone on wasn't good at all. It was horrible and very unkind.