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Oldgreymare Sun 11-Mar-12 12:45:43

Anyone going racing.... I shall be there on Tuesday and am willing to wear something that identifies me as a Gransnetter ( no suggestions from any 'naughty' ladies thankyou, you know who you are!!!!!)

crimson Sat 17-Mar-12 09:47:48

Very knowledgeable crowd you'd have at Wincanton as well; over the last few years Uttoxeter has become a boozefest place, and I very rarely go there now. When Sir Stan ran it it was wonderful; quality of the racing improved; we used to have parades of stallions sometimes; one year John Oaksey was there and they had just about every top jumping stallion of that era..Karinga Bay slobbered all over my wax and I said I'd never clean it again..Terimon was there, pure white with the prettiest head you'd ever see. Then Arena Leisure bought it and it went downhill, although the entrance fee remained the same. Sir Stan used to parade Lord Gyllene before the Midlands National. I've grown to love flat racing over the past few years; fell in love with Sea the Stars before he won the 1000gns, and was a wreck every time he ran. Sean, who wrote the book about him when he retired kindly sent me a copy of it. I spoke to him one night about the horse, and he said 'you really love the horse, don't you, I'll send you a copy of the book' [I was going to buy it anyway!], but I never dreamed that he would..it was inscribed 'as promised'. Again, racing folk and their kindness. We started going to The Ebor at York, and I found that I could follow the flat handicappers the way I follow the jumpers, year after year, and could watch the race without the fear of them not coming back. I won't bet online, I don't like using my card online and, to be honest, I wouldn't trust myself not to get carried away. And I like going into betting shops. There's a lady at William Hills who I've promised a cup of tea to, if and when I get back into winning ways, and I am quite famous for backing a Champion Hurdle winner ante post at 80/1 one year. My ambition is to back a 100/1 winner. I backed Mon Mome at 33/1 the year he won the National at 100/1, so that doesn't count! I love the mares; a good race mare is very special. I saw a programme many years ago about 'The Dove' family, bred by farmers, so I followed Flakey Dove throughout her career. Dubacilla, who died a few months ago,was another favourite. We will have a National Preview evening soon; one year we had every retired surviving winning jockey; some of them hadn't seen each other for years so they said they'd do it every year. Alas, Josh Gifford came last year, to replace Bob Champion who was still not over his heart scare, and Michael Scudamore was a special guest one year; Peter and Lucinda travelled all the way down from Scotland to be there for him. Oh dear, I'm putting off work again. Will shut up! I know racing is full of sadness as well as joy, but I'm so glad that it's such a big part of my life! If Kauto parades next year I think I'll go on Gold Cup day just to see him [have heard that Denman is going to be going team chasing when he's had his 'time out with a leg'. What a sight that would be!]

Oldgreymare Fri 16-Mar-12 22:03:49

Crimson, I saw the Trevor Hemmings interview, what a lovely man!
I had no bets today but marked Synchronized as a possible e/w! Too lazy to go into town, and I don't like betting 'on-line'!

No.2 son is busy thinking of what might have been as he had Long Run in an accumulator set up months ago (£4,500) The pundits at the preview evening were all wary about him tho (the horse not my son).

I was sad about Kauto Star but secretly relieved to see him pull up. There must have been more to the fall while schooling than was realised, either that or the Yard has problems. Nicholls seemed to have young horses with promise last year (Zarkander for instance) who have not 'come-on'.

I have a friend who says some yards are better early season whilst others 'peak' after Christmas.

There was a quick interview with Clive Smith but I didn't hear it, I'll wait to see what is said tomorrow. I wonder whether he'll buy any more horses as MasterMinded won't run again either. (No.2 son says that Nicholls owners are not buying as much as Hendersons at the moment)

My 'local' track is Wincanton, great on a crisp sunny winters day as it is west-facing.

Well, we have seen some wonderful 'chasers and some superb hurdlers!

crimson Fri 16-Mar-12 16:27:39

End of an era. Took me a long time to warm to Kauto, but feel a bit weepy now. Expect there'll be an announcement tomorrow?

crimson Fri 16-Mar-12 10:43:35

I hardly ever see a horse jump a fence; usually close my eyes. When my old favouroites, Dessie and See More Business ran I used to pace up and down the living room with my hands over my eyes. When One Man died I cried for a week. Want Burton Port to win this afternoon, after seeing the interview with Trevor Hemmings yesterday. I never realised his horses were all home breds, and he bred endangered horses. Thankfully I've got my grandson here till 1; stops me worrying too much about this afternoon. the times I've been paddockside and I hear people around me murmering to themselves 'come back safe'. Like warriors going into battle, and all for our pleasure. Total respect for their courage and the courage of the men who ride them [also want Midnight Chase to run a bit race; the sort of horse who epitomises what is wonderful about steeplechasers; Lady Clark's husband Stan used to run Utoxeter racecourse [my local track].

Oldgreymare Thu 15-Mar-12 22:54:56

I do love it when a mare does well. Heart in mouth time watching Big Bucks but I needn't have worried, imagine if the mare had beaten him! I really don't want K.S. to run tomorrow given what happened to 2 other stalwarts on Tuesday. I only had a couple of bets today, neither successful ( but they were what I call 'coincidence' bets).
I shall probably just watch tomorrow altho I may leave the room for the BIG race and watch the replay if K.S. gets through.
I haven't watched 'pointers', No.2 son reckons I couldn't cope with the spills as I generally stop betting if the big green screens go up and hate it when horses or jockeys are injured.
You sound as if you have visited lots of Racetracks, any favourites?

crimson Thu 15-Mar-12 20:11:26

Graham Lee is my favourite jockey, probably after seeing how concerned he was about his horse after a race at Kelso; hate it when he gets injured. Seems like a thoroughly decent fellow. I followed Isabel for a few seasons after seeing her on a horse called Sweet World at Bangor; followed her point to point exploits on Chesnut Annie and was devastated to hear of her terrible injury last year. Annoyingly today I backed Blazing Tempo because of her getting the mares allowance, and she pulled up part way through the race, buit ignored Voler la Vedette and her allowance. Didn't she give BB a race! And isn't Sir des Champs gorgeous! Just hope Kauto is ok tomorrow. I'm not looking forward to it....

Oldgreymare Thu 15-Mar-12 11:23:32

Back to the telly for me today, and will probably not bet altho I do have winnings to collect and may be tempted.
Watched 'The Morning Line' and noted what was said about the debacle (?). Lots of wise words, hope they are heeded.
No.2 son is worried about Big Bucks as he has him tied in with other bets. I keep it simple but do find it difficult when I don't actually see the horses.
Lots of favourite Jockeys but less keen on Kieron Fallon on the flat and Paddy Brennan over jumps. Have a soft spot for Sam Twiston Davies. Saw Harry Derham being told 'just enjoy it' presumably by his Mum on Tues. He looks about 14 and far too slight to handle a thoroughbred!
Good luck today, Crimson.

crimson Wed 14-Mar-12 23:13:01

I'm still furious about the race. Thought Henry de Bromhead was a saint to talk so diplomatically about it afterwards [is it just me, but I fancy him like crazy, especially with that Irish accent; bit like Francois Doumen years ago with his French accent...sigh..wink]. As I watched them go out I saw Richard Johnson beaming, and I thought to myself how lucky he had been with injuries over the years and, as I thought it I wanted to unthink it because I felt that I was tempting fate, so I was worried sick when Wishfull Thinking came down. Thank goodness he's ok. My favourite jockey recently has been Isabel Thompsett, and she will never be the same after her terrible fall last year. The other year we saw Harry Challoner go out to ride at the Festival and his sister was standing by us. She called to him and he turned his head and smiled, a young man on this huge horse going out to jump those fences and I've watched him ever since and thought of that smile. 'Tiny men in silk were brave beyond bearing..etc etc' I've just spent 2 hours studying the Byrne Group Plate and reached the conclusion that I haven't got the faintest idea who's going to win it sad. Still; it keeps me out of mischief. An old dear drinking Horlicks and studying the gee gee's.

nightowl Wed 14-Mar-12 23:12:35

phoenix No it's not me! I am not on another forum! Is there another one of me or has someone stolen my identity? Now I'm all confused....

Oldgreymare Wed 14-Mar-12 22:29:54

Crimson and Phoenix.... totally agree re the Queen Mother Champion chase, and listening to the officials trying to justify their actions, mind-blowing!
Had a couple of winners today using a similar system to yours Phoenix ... Champagne Fever in the bumper ( for obvious reasons, always said I should have married a Lord!)
Back to watching on T.V tomorrow.
Seems that Nicky Henderson has all the 'good' horses at the moment. Talking to No. 2 son, he thinks that all 'new' money is going Hendersons way and that his owners are buying whereas others are not.
Lots of yards have not done so well at Cheltenham this year, David Pipe comes to mind as does Nigel Twiston Davies and Alan King, even Willie Mullins was disappointing.
Ah well, tomorrow is another day!

Anne58 Wed 14-Mar-12 21:06:05

crimson I think there is a bit of a problem in the PN yard, be interesting to see how NH does this week.

As for bets...... at the course I usually do either £1 or £2 each way, a lot of on-course bookies wont accept less!

(My personal best was a meeting at Exeter, first race, £2 e/w at 28/1, came in first, picked up over £60, covered everything for the rest of the meeting!

Last but one race, a first at 40/1 ! Daft thing is, unlike the first race when I had looked at a bit of the form (hadn't run in over a year, but was a reasonable prize money race, the only one that the trainer had sent to the meeting, amateur lady jockey claiming weight etc) this one I went for the name "Callerlily" purely because we have an excuse for a cat called Lily.

crimson Wed 14-Mar-12 20:00:27

The Nicholls' horses are running terribly, apart from Rock on Ruby who is at the satellite stable. I'm wondering if there's still a bug going round the stable?

crimson Wed 14-Mar-12 19:57:43

I like to read Kim Baileys daily blog [he did a blog way before anyone else did] beautiful photos of his horses, his young son his dog and his farm, and very funny. Kimbaileyracing.com I think it is. One of his horses ran a good race yesterday so I'm just going to see what he wrote. Nearly had a 40/1 winner today but, when I came to put the money on it was 16/1; I thought I was the only one who had spotted it as well. Other than that, it has been a bad day, and the controversy over the Queen Mother Champion Chase has made my blood boil, and I'm furious with the racecourse officials. A tip 'straight from the stable' for the bumper came nowhere, but I only lost £1 [which is a big bet for me; I've only just gone from 25 pence each way to 50 pence each way]. I know some people that were piling on it. Ouch....

Bez Wed 14-Mar-12 19:04:27

We used to love going racing but suddenly about 10 years ago DH became very allergic to horses - we cannot go anywhere near the paddock or walk in or he gets a bad reaction - have to be satisfied with the TV now and I don't find it nearly such fun.

Anne58 Wed 14-Mar-12 18:33:04

Crimson lovely post re. the people that go racing. I totally agree. Just wish I could go more often.

Those that are interested, have you had a look at Paul Nicholls website? You can register an interest for their special tours. Totally oversubscribed at the moment, but they will put you on the list.

Oldgreymare Wed 14-Mar-12 09:28:48

Sorry, Crimson not Crinson!

Oldgreymare Wed 14-Mar-12 09:26:56

Crinson... so true. We'll be watching on Big Screen T.V. today.

crimson Tue 13-Mar-12 23:28:10

My neighbour recorded it for me, but it doesn't seem to be working [we're both technophobes] so I've watched it on The Sporting Life, but that means I've only seen the races not the chit chat in between. We always park on [I think] the north car park and leave immediately after the last but one race, which is why I missed Hunt Ball. I did get to see the interview with his connections which is a wonderful story of dreams and loyalty; pretty much what racing is all about. Pity the BBC [who are not showing racing at all after next year] don't concentrate on stories like that. nightowl; know what you mean. Sometimes I want to walk away from it, but it's been such a huge part of my life since I was a child I'd miss it so much, and I've never known such wonderful people. Before I met the S.O. I used to go racing on my own, and there are always people to talk to. I don't think there's another sport where the people involved are so friendly and approachable, compounded by the deep love and respect for the horses that we all feel.

Oldgreymare Tue 13-Mar-12 22:59:18

Crimson, altered my pattern and looked out for you. As a result of that put a small wager on Cinders and Ashes in the first as he looked so good in the pre-parade ring and then the parade ring. 2nd in the 2nd on Cue Card. Then nothing 'til Balthazar King ( following a tip from a friendly Irish man standing next to me!!!) Was afraid to chance my arm on Hunt Ball and was then cross with myself!
So sad about the lovely horses who won't race again. Glad I didn't know at the time.
We enjoyed the racing but arriving and leaving was a nightmare. Traffic control was non existant in the car parks and it took us two hours to just get onto the main road!
Sadly we forgot to record the event, and I'm too tired to wait up for the highlights as I was duty driver! ( They will be recorded for tomorrow!)

Anne58 Tue 13-Mar-12 20:46:28

Nightowl, is it you? Do you have the same name on another forum?????

nightowl Tue 13-Mar-12 20:32:59

Educated Evans (only 7 years old) also died. Love to see such beautiful horses but the toll is too great for me I'm afraid.

crimson Tue 13-Mar-12 20:06:07

Oh I missed Hunt Ball but chuffed to get home to find that he'd won. However, devastated to hear about Garde Champetre; knew about Scotsirish, but not Garde.I was so worried about the ground out there.The S.O. backed the winner, because he always follows the Hobbs horses. Bit of a Jonjo/JP plot in the 3 mile handicap methinks. Trifolium nearly slipped up on the bend in the Supreme, but he wouldn't have won anyway; Overturn ran his heart out, as did Fruity. So, a few placed horses but no winner for me. I'd forgotten how beautiful the horses are; Sprinter Sacre reminded me of Best Mate. Now to watch the replay and study for tomorrow. Can't believe another year is over, but we might go to Kelso in a couple of weeks time as haven't been there for ages.

Oldgreymare Tue 13-Mar-12 07:11:39

Today's the Day!!!
Still foggy here, hope it clears!
Crimson.... I 'm worried about the CC too. I hate it when the big green screens go up and usually stop my 'little flutters' at that point.
I agree about Hello Bud!
I missed all your 'big moments' as I only got really interested in the last few years, I would like to visit all race courses (61 apparently!)
Must get ready....
Saw Hunt Ball win easily at Wincanton so will probably 'lump on'. The ownwer is a scream, I didn't see it but apparently he joined the jockey aboard the horse the previous time he won there, fined £100 for his pains!!!
Really must get ready....

Anne58 Mon 12-Mar-12 19:01:23

Oh how I love this thread! My racing, my passion.

crimson Mon 12-Mar-12 13:43:50

The S.O. likes to leave before the last race, so we don't have time to go out on the track to the Cross Country[we have done at Punchestown]. Something they said at the weekend is that they can't water the Cross Country track the way they do the rest of the course, so the ground is going to be plenty hard for the horses [worryingly]. I so want to see Hunt Ball in the last race, but I'll probably have to leave [that's the problem with being a rubbish driver and depending on other people to get me places]. I'm doing my head in with facts and figures and stats at the moment. One of my favourite moments was seeing dear Grey Abbey when he ran in the Gold Cup. His owners were really disappointed with his run, but I saw them afterwards and told them that just seeing him in the flesh had made my day, and they were quite touched to hear that [I would have thought they knew how much people loved their horse, but I suppose when you're that involved you don't know these things]. As for seeing Dessie when he used to be there parading on Gold Cup day; I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. Gold Cup day is far too busy these days, butwe were there for Best Mate [and went to his 'funeral' when Jim Lewis took his ashes to their final resting spot; we did the same for Dessie's funeral as well, at Kempton]. I wish they'd retire Hello Bud; he must be one of the best jumpers of a fence I've ever seen. Sorry, rabbiting again; putting of doing housework!