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Amazing Olympics

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LullyDully Fri 12-Aug-16 08:35:37

We seem to have a few moans about the Olympics on various threads, plus our own gransnet games which I am enjoying. Could this be a positive thread about Rio? We don't have one so far.

I can not be on my own enjoying the diving and particularly the amazing gymnasts. Cycling is a bit tedious but can't wait for the athletics.

JessM Thu 18-Aug-16 09:39:08

One of the last events to look forward to is the 800m women's final. There is still controversy about Caster Semenya. The S Africans are obviously sorry about the way she has been treated and are now supporting her. But it is controversial area of sports ethics regarding women with naturally high testosterone. But should it be?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya

GandTea Wed 17-Aug-16 21:38:42

On second thoughts, surely someone like Usain Bolt is just as professional as any footballer.

GandTea Wed 17-Aug-16 21:36:30

I sort of agree about the sports that are primarily professional like Football, tennis, golf etc. However there are many countries where those sports are not professional.

Maggiemaybe Wed 17-Aug-16 21:24:29

That would be my rule of thumb too, Jamila.

Jalima Wed 17-Aug-16 21:20:11

I think any sport that has a huge profile elsewhere - football, tennis etc.

whitewave Wed 17-Aug-16 21:17:53

Football - get enough all year round.

JessM Wed 17-Aug-16 21:13:32

Not getting at her personally - but there is no way that dressage, or show jumping, are sports accessible to a wide range of people in a wide range of countries.
The Olympics has grown and grown, with more and more new sports added. This means that it is now hugely expensive to stage. I'd vote for a big review with a more egalitarian vision. Which sports would other GN members get rid of, and why?

nightowl Wed 17-Aug-16 20:04:14

I'm not sure Charlotte's inheritance needed to be as high as £50000. She used it to buy her own horse, Fernandez, whose value is a lot less than Valegro, who she does not own.

I can testify that horse ownership has changed a lot since I was a girl. It is no longer just for the wealthy, and lots of people are competing on home produced ponies and horses and riding clubs are encouraging competition at all levels. I think Charlotte proves that with talent, it is possible to go far even if you are from quite a modest background. Of course it helps to have money behind you but sometimes those who have to fight a bit harder go further than those who have had things come easily to them.

Jalima Wed 17-Aug-16 19:53:21

What a lot of inverted snobbery in some posts.

Presumably equestrian Olympians like Charlotte should hang their heads in shame at having such an advantage over other people.
I read that she was from a fairly ordinary background, that her mother was enterprising enough to fund her riding by dealing in ponies and horses. Lots of devoted mothers work and sacrifice a lot to support their children's hobbies, be it dancing, gymnastics, riding, athletics, tennis etc.
And if Granny owned her own home which she left to her family, then £50,000 is not an outlandish sum to inherit if the house was in the Home Counties, where house prices rose so much over the years.

Why take such a wonderful achievement away from her by being snippy about her probably middleclass but not wealthy background?

JessM Wed 17-Aug-16 19:43:00

Tegan I know you love your horses. But Charlotte did come from a family wealthy enough that the children could do show jumping and she spent an inheritance from her grandmother on the horse - likely to have been £50k plus.
(I know, I'm being argumentative again. smile )
Medal tally impressive. Track and field less so. Uniforms fantastic. The more I see of them the more I think, all respect to Macartney's team that came up with such brilliant designs along with attention to detail - the shorts, darling! and the leggings!

LullyDully Tue 16-Aug-16 22:20:14

It s the variety of sports that I find so fascinating. Couldn't sit through a football match but.enjoying the Olympics.

dustyangel Tue 16-Aug-16 21:03:27

DH just said that he hadn't expected to find the cycling interesting and has been surprised.
I've never found dressage particularly watchable but Valegro was fantastic, absolutely beautiful.

LullyDully Tue 16-Aug-16 20:53:32

I used to think the cycling was boring but it is intriguing.

Tegan Tue 16-Aug-16 20:02:10

'Someone once said the phrase to me, you only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough. I could not begin to imagine when I saw this horse at Carls speeding down the long side with his huge powerful canter that not only would I have had the opportunity to train him and have the ride, that our friendship and bond would have grown to what it has and that we would achieve all that we have. He is simply my best friend, a horse that gives me his heart and soul every time and reduces me to tears when he does. He has always seems to known what I'm thinking when I ride and has tried so hard over the years to do his best for me and never more so than today. I'm not sure I'm going to finish this post as the tears are building up again as I type. Carl, I can't put into words how grateful I am for everything you have done, as a trainer and as my friend. You were amazing today and I am proud to have worked with you for all of these years. The Lottery, UK Sport, World Class, Team GB, British Dressage, BEF, and all the governing bodies and schemes that help us riders achieve all this, I am so grateful. It takes a huge team. Thank you to Jon Stroud Media for half of these lovely pictures below - I will treasure them. My family, Alan, Ian, Roly, Anne, Richard Waygood, Tom Hunt, the team on the yard, my management team and every single person who helps make this possible for me, thank you thank you thank you. I know you were all watching at home x

And lastly, thank you to all who follow and support me through this wall, at shows and in person and know that your support, comments and words have always encouraged me every step of the way. To every little girl or boy reading this who dreams of achieving more with their ponies and horses they love; whether that's winning a prelim test, an elementary or those working right the way through; believe you can achieve anything you set your heart on because anything is possible, as this wonder horse with the heart of gold has shown us all. This is a brilliant sport and I'm so proud to be a part of it. Thank you again to everyone. The celebrations will be going on into the night I think xx'
Charlotte talking about Valegro....From what I've heard about her she isn't rich or posh, just a girl with a huge talent who met her equine soulmate and conquered the world #youcouldn'tmakeitup

gettingonabit Tue 16-Aug-16 15:08:04

Thanks jess. Phew. Thought I'd missed Christine.

JessM Tue 16-Aug-16 13:39:13

Ohorogu did qualify, her event not started yet.
There would seem to be many more deserving and inclusive sports other than dressage. It is only accessible to very rich people due to the cost of the horses etc. And how many countries actually enter any one?
My GD is complaining that netball is not included for example. It is a hugely popular sport in some countries. Many martial arts, such as karate, are also not included.

merlotgran Tue 16-Aug-16 13:21:08

Dressage is a cute trick?

I've never heard it called horse dancing before this Olympics.

gettingonabit Tue 16-Aug-16 11:52:19

I'm on catchup, so just saw the great David Rudisha in the 800m.

We don't have many track athletes, do we? Where's Christine Ohurugu? Did she not qualify?

Badenkate Mon 15-Aug-16 23:18:54

I was so glad Mark Cavendish got his Olympic medal at last. And the girl who won the bronze in the hammer throwing was great. In fact, they're all great. I have a big smile on my face smile

LullyDully Mon 15-Aug-16 20:55:08

The only way to stop it is to be unforgiving. The trouble is the drugs get harder to detect.

Apparently we have John Major to thank for our success, by setting up the lottery. Before then we couldn't afford to train Olympians properly. So it says on the news....interesting.

I hope something can be done to finance the paralympians' flights. Surely the richer countries could club together. Something must be done.

whitewave Mon 15-Aug-16 20:52:55

Don't care really!smile They are glorious animals and sooooo clever. Actually yes I think it is a sport. Just the same as jumping, racing etc.

JessM Mon 15-Aug-16 20:46:14

The horse dancing may be a cute trick, but is it a sport?

whitewave Mon 15-Aug-16 20:34:17

A British swimming coach said that we would have at least 4 more medals if swimmers had been banned for life for drug abuse. I agree, if you are found to be cheating then your are out for good. That would stop it all.

Jalima Mon 15-Aug-16 20:20:11

I don't understand how the cycling works either!

I have only stayed up once, to watch Andy last night.

Charleygirl Mon 15-Aug-16 20:16:53

I have thoroughly enjoyed most sports, eeven the cycling at the velodrome although some of the events I do not have a clue about- the Omnium (if that is the correct word|) being one.

I do enjoy the athletics but feel very strongly that Justin Gatlin USA who was banned x2 for drug cheating should not have been allowed to take part. He is not the only drugs cheat, others have been allowed to run. Once found to be a cheat they should be disqualified for life. There endeth the sermon.