*MayBee70 you are so right and tbh most decent owners will PTS before a horse dies of old age. My rule is if they can't lie down and get up again or if they can't live a normal life out in the paddock with the sun on their back free pain, then it's preferable to quietly and kindly PTS but I do it at home. I do, however, believe there should be well run abattoirs, they provide a service and there is nothing worse than an owner leaving an old horse, neglected in a field because they don't have the money to ask a vet to PTS. Yes, we over breed but it's the poorly bred, badly started horses that I worry about most. Nicely bred and started horses stand the best chance of finding a long term home. I feel it was wrong to focus on racing except there is clearly a vile scam going on, most owners will be appalled by last night's programme but to suggest this is the norm, is totally wrong.