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Will football finally come home?

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Sarnia Wed 16-Oct-24 07:28:00

For those who care, I welcome the news of Thomas Tuchel's appointment as the new England manager.
Gareth Southgate had his chance but fell short and Lee Carsley's interim tenure shows he isn't up to the job but unlike Southgate, he knew it.
The Daily Mail calls it a dark day for England on it's back page this morning. Why? It isn't the first time England have had a foreign manager and there are many national teams with a head coach who is not from the country they manage. The teams are multi-national too so what's the problem. Perhaps the shortage of experienced and enthusiastic English born managers tells its own story.
I think Tuchel may just be the right man for the job. He has some top players at his disposal so fingers crossed.

escaped Wed 16-Oct-24 08:06:40

They come and they go, but I hope he is der richtiger Mann for the job. The trouble is, he can only work with the material he is given. 🤞

escaped Wed 16-Oct-24 08:08:26

And I should get the adjectival ending on the adjective richtig correct, it's richtige here!

escaped Wed 16-Oct-24 08:12:41

What is Tuchel's style like?
Does the fact that he is German make the appointment more interesting, I wonder?

Jaxjacky Wed 16-Oct-24 08:24:48

I’d like to have seen Eddie Howe take the job, but contractual issues make that tricky, maybe next time.
An English manager for the England team would have been ideal, but I can’t think of anyone who’s up to it, so I wish Tuchel good luck.

Casdon Wed 16-Oct-24 08:28:00

He did a very good job at Chelsea, and I think he will be a better choice than the last few England managers. Football management is an international role, he already know the players, and the fact that he’s not English won’t diminish his wish to see the team he is managing win.

kittylester Wed 16-Oct-24 08:59:28

I'd have liked Eddie Howe too, Jaxjacky.

I do feel the England manager should be English like the players.

keepingquiet Wed 16-Oct-24 09:35:01

escaped

What is Tuchel's style like?
Does the fact that he is German make the appointment more interesting, I wonder?

Isn't it time this silly England/Germany rivalry ended?

dogsmother Wed 16-Oct-24 09:41:02

I delighted, think it’s going to be a wonderful phase for England. The way the u21 boys are going it should last a while too. Yes I am a footie fan!

eazybee Wed 16-Oct-24 09:49:58

The problem is with the team, not the manager.
Too many overpaid prima donnas.

escaped Wed 16-Oct-24 10:23:06

keepingquiet

escaped

What is Tuchel's style like?
Does the fact that he is German make the appointment more interesting, I wonder?

Isn't it time this silly England/Germany rivalry ended?

I think you misunderstood me, keepingquiet or I didn't explain properly. No silly rivalry inference intended.
This thread is under the heading Sport, and I meant Tuchel's football style, (German), as in managing his players on the pitch.
For example, my young DGS1 was selected by a Premier League club, but has since been "foothunted" by an International club, (Italian). The two styles of training and playing are very different, and the Italian way of team management is interesting in comparison.

Allira Wed 16-Oct-24 11:04:20

The teams are multi-national too so what's the problem

Members of the England team generally has to be born in England, have parents or grandparents born here or have residency and naturalisation.

It matters not if the England manager is English or not - eg Sven Goran Eriksson RIP.
Sarina Wiegman manages the England women

However, is he the right choice for the job with his temper and belittling of players? He's been sacked more than once.
I hope they've got someone else lined up for the not-too-distant future.

Sarnia Wed 16-Oct-24 11:29:58

Tuchel favours an attacking style of play so a bit different to Southgate who was more defensive.
Like other posters I would have preferred an English manager but Eddie Howe has unfinished business at Newcastle.
Having watched England lift the World Cup in 1966, I live in hopes of seeing that again and feel more hopeful of it happening under Tuchel.

AGAA4 Wed 16-Oct-24 11:31:30

Southgate had a team of talented players and used them in the wrong way. Hopefully the new man will get more out of his team.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 16-Oct-24 11:35:03

Tuchel seems to fall out with everybody Himself says. Dortmund. Chelsea. He’s not impressed by the news.

Casdon Wed 16-Oct-24 12:26:48

Tuchel didn’t leave Chelsea because there were issues between him and the players, he left because when the club changed hands the new management made decisions to let players he wanted to keep go, and interfered with new signings, so he was effectively not allowed to manage. He was a very successful manager from the results perspective. Both my children are avid Chelsea supporters so I’ve got this on good authority.

Allira Wed 16-Oct-24 12:32:27

I shall ask DS for his view 🙂

escaped Wed 16-Oct-24 12:43:07

My reading of it is that he falls out with the boards over transfers, but hopefully, that won't happen with England?

AGAA4 Wed 16-Oct-24 14:06:06

He should be given a chance to prove himself.

Sillymoo Wed 16-Oct-24 15:34:14

A commentator on the radio said it was a win win appointment.
If England win - great
If England lose we can blame the German

escaped Wed 16-Oct-24 16:11:37

The proof will be in the Apfelstrudel.

AGAA4 Wed 16-Oct-24 16:34:19

escaped

The proof will be in the Apfelstrudel.

😄

Allira Wed 16-Oct-24 20:06:57

And Crème Anglaise!

La crème de la crème 😀

MayBee70 Wed 16-Oct-24 22:46:43

I’m just so ashamed of all the questions being asked of him about being German. Will you sing the National Anthem etc.

Allira Wed 16-Oct-24 22:51:12

MayBee70

I’m just so ashamed of all the questions being asked of him about being German. Will you sing the National Anthem etc.

Well the interim manager wouldn't.