Is “sexy” what you want to be in your mid-80’s?

MissAdventure

I didn't know about Marianne, M0nica.

She has certainly got some memories, I'll bet!

I will go and have a look online.

Did you think she would always be "someone"?

No, we didn't, she was really a very pretty little girl, but manipulative, as I said, she used her prettiness for good effect, which caused resentment. She was also academically bright and artistically gifted. It appeared as if the fairy godmother's had all attended her christening and smiled and scattered all the gifts on her. A true golden girl.

However, she was on 'Who do you think you are?' and that revealed a lot about her mother's past in particular. Her mother was an Austrian Countess, and half Jewish. It was only the high rank of her father that protected her and her, fully Jewish, mother from the inevitable fate of other Jewish and part Jewish people in Austria. When the Russians invaded and occupied Austria, Russian soldiers raped both Marianne's mother and grandmother.

It made me realise, how ungolden the life of little girl behind the 'golden' girl was and explains a lot of her later behaviour, but my goodness, isn't she a survivor?

Each to their own some people want to be the centre of attention. I would be happy being able to get around enjoy a nice glass of wine and decent food. That is all I expect if I live until my 80s the simple things in life.

Wow, what a compelling life story, M0nica.

I'll have to find that episode and watch it, I think.

I spent the swinging 60s tucked up in bed by 7pm, because I was that bit too young, but I know just a little about some of the escapades of the stars at that time.

Such an interesting back story, thank you.

I read Marianne's autobiography a while back. Some life she had! She had four pregnancies terminated, including one where she became pregnant by Gene Pitney. A miracle she survived all the drug taking.

Redhead56

Each to their own some people want to be the centre of attention. I would be happy being able to get around enjoy a nice glass of wine and decent food. That is all I expect if I live until my 80s the simple things in life.

Redhead56 That sounds so depressing. I am in my 80s and still enjoying life to its full.

My aims in life still go way beyond a glass of wine and good food. Less bothered about the wine but good food has always been immensely important to me (and I do not mean expensive food) and always will be. but that is just the starting point.

Kate1949

I read Marianne's autobiography a while back. Some life she had! She had four pregnancies terminated, including one where she became pregnant by Gene Pitney. A miracle she survived all the drug taking.

I haven't read her biography, but I do remember that in the heyday of her fame she used to spout absolute nonsense about her convent education. making out it was like some strict French convent in the 19th century

She was 8 when she came the school that my sister and I were also starting at. A standard big town convent grammar school, with a sperate primary school. Mainly day girls, but with a boarding house, mainly army brats, diplomatic and the like. Couldn't have been more ordinary.

That her life has been difficult and a mess is certainly true and I am glad that towards the end of her life she has peace and security., but her accuracy, I am not sure.

I suppose just a bit of fun for her & why the hell not- but the outfits not to my taste.
I watch clips on YouTube of some of the best dressed, older, ladies walking through the street of Milan & London, wearing jackets & skirts of soft calf leather, looking smart, stylish & demure- much more up my street, if I could afford it.

She probably wanted to make herself seem a bit more exotic Monica.

Gotta love London Fashion Week

It brightens my day while the sun is shining and I can’t get outside. I can’t walk, and it’s lovely to see this 84 year old lady strutting her stuff on the catwalk.

Redhead yes!

Mt61

I suppose just a bit of fun for her & why the hell not- but the outfits not to my taste.
I watch clips on YouTube of some of the best dressed, older, ladies walking through the street of Milan & London, wearing jackets & skirts of soft calf leather, looking smart, stylish & demure- much more up my street, if I could afford it.

I still think soft calf leather looks better on calves.

The last thing I want to look in my 80s is 'demure' . A recipe for being ignored.

I had a minor procedure on my arm lasst week, I tuned up in jeans and a saailing sweater and while the surgeon did hos work under locl anaesthetic, the nurses were admiring my white trainers with fake diamonds on them.

I've never been demure 😁

RosiesMaw2

Mt61

I suppose just a bit of fun for her & why the hell not- but the outfits not to my taste.
I watch clips on YouTube of some of the best dressed, older, ladies walking through the street of Milan & London, wearing jackets & skirts of soft calf leather, looking smart, stylish & demure- much more up my street, if I could afford it.

I still think soft calf leather looks better on calves.

Oh dear, yes!!

But, of course, male calves are slaughtered as they are a by-product of the dairy industry.

Some people eat veal too.

Oh my God being ignored is utter bliss. Its funny how different we all are.

Galaxy 😂😂😂

I don’t happen to be depressed I have a wonderful family and friends. I have achieved a lot in many ways but since my early 50s my health has progressively declined. I don’t look my age 68 and my outlook is young but having ever present health issues wears me down.

If someone is not hindered by disability in their 80s I admire them and wish them good luck. If I am still able to enjoy the simple pleasures in life when I am in my 80s that will be a bonus. I will be grateful I know plenty of people not so fortunate and life for them is a struggle

Redhead, I don’t look my age 68 and my outlook is young but having ever present health issues wears me down. resonates with me.

I am 69 and battling chronic ill health, but determined to make the most of things, within my limitations.
I felt great at the beginning of the week, but can do little today. I used to keep working through it, but realised that was stupid.

I am resilient and strong willed, that is half the battle.

Galaxy

Oh my God being ignored is utter bliss. Its funny how different we all are.

Agreed.

I blend well into the background - with the potted plants.

Norah

Galaxy

Oh my God being ignored is utter bliss. Its funny how different we all are.

Agreed.

I blend well into the background - with the potted plants.

One can relax into people watching from the security of anonymity.

M0nica

MissAdventure

I didn't know about Marianne, M0nica.

She has certainly got some memories, I'll bet!

I will go and have a look online.

Did you think she would always be "someone"?

No, we didn't, she was really a very pretty little girl, but manipulative, as I said, she used her prettiness for good effect, which caused resentment. She was also academically bright and artistically gifted. It appeared as if the fairy godmother's had all attended her christening and smiled and scattered all the gifts on her. A true golden girl.

However, she was on 'Who do you think you are?' and that revealed a lot about her mother's past in particular. Her mother was an Austrian Countess, and half Jewish. It was only the high rank of her father that protected her and her, fully Jewish, mother from the inevitable fate of other Jewish and part Jewish people in Austria. When the Russians invaded and occupied Austria, Russian soldiers raped both Marianne's mother and grandmother.

It made me realise, how ungolden the life of little girl behind the 'golden' girl was and explains a lot of her later behaviour, but my goodness, isn't she a survivor?

This happened to a German friend of mine in Berlin. The Russians raped both her aunt and her mother in front of her in the cellar they were hiding in.. It had such an impact on her that she wrote a poem about it which was read at her funeral...

I think she looks edgey and the outfit is flattering. She’s not trying to look sexy! I live in DMs and jeans and got my first tattoos recently and am always well turned-out. I’m 67 and will always be a rock-chick. However I would never try to look sexy and know instinctively if I look like mutton done up lamb.
Leave her be.

Actually, why shouldn't one want to look sexy in ones 80s? I mean there is more to looking sexy than minimal and/or tight revealing clothes and pouting.

Look at Maureen Lipman announcing that she is to marry again at the age of 78. My DS's MiL, now in her late 80s, and long widowed, has had a boyfriend as long as I have known her,. As one relationship ends she usually starts another within a year. In the 20 years I have known her she has had 4 boyfriends and I have no reason to think the relationships were platonic.

So yes why not look sexy in your 80s, not everyone's libido dies with the menopause. Some women find it revives when the fear of pregnancy disappears.

So yes why not look sexy in your 80s

Absolutely, but that outfit is not sexy!