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Microsoft Surface Pro 4

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Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 11:37:52

Does anyone have one please, I have to decide between the Microsoft or a new iPad

pompa Tue 26-Apr-16 12:35:34

You need to decide what you want to use it for and which are your highest priorities.
If your need it for portability, battery life, simplicity, email and web browsing the iPad is hard to beat.
If you need a keyboard and want applications like word processing, spreadsheets or other windows based applications, the MS machine would be better. I have tried running windows applications on my wife's iPad, but I don't warm to it.

When the time comes to replace my laptop, I suspect I would still go for a laptop as I would want a good keyboard, built in dvd/cd, USB ports and full windows compatibility. I currently have a touch screen laptop, bit would not bother again as I rarely use that option.

Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 12:49:59

pompa, I just cannot decide,I am more comfy with my iPad, hate windows 10 but need a key board and mouse . Curry's said I can't use a mouse but Apple Store sell them, what a confusing world

pompa Tue 26-Apr-16 13:01:14

Currys are correct, the iPad does not have a cursor, so there is nothing for a mouse to control. The mouse that Apple sell is for the Mac computer, not iPad.

Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 13:09:51

Oh thump, my Physio has said I am damaging my hand by using the iPad . Perhaps I should try the notebook I recently bought and try to like it

Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 13:20:10

.pompa, may I ask your opinion on the iPad Pro?

pompa Tue 26-Apr-16 20:10:24

You can ask, but I have no experience of the iPad Pro.

pompa Tue 26-Apr-16 20:18:25

I have looked at the spec for the Pro series, apart from better performance, most things seem similar. You still can't use a mouse.

Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 20:34:22

pompa, I looked on uTube and there are clips showing the use of a wifi mouse - I think that's what it was called !

pompa Tue 26-Apr-16 20:44:51

I'll investigate further

pompa Tue 26-Apr-16 21:04:15

I cannot find anything about being able to use a wifi mouse with the iPad Pro. There is a pencil, but that does not work like a mouse and would not help.

Can you post the link to the video you saw please.

Anniebach Wed 27-Apr-16 08:19:46

Sorry, I can't post links pompa. Think perhaps I should give the notebook another go and try to like Windows 10 .

pompa Wed 27-Apr-16 09:07:56

If you use Windows10 in desktop mode it is similar to previous versions of Windows. BUT, it does have some differences and several of those make it far more friendly and incorporate some of the advantages of tablets. It is worth taking the time to watch an online tutorial or get an idiots guide to W10. An hour or two learning the options available will make it a much better experience.
Just trying to use it as though it was W7, will be frustrating, I would liken it to buying a new car and expecting everything to be exactly the same as a 5 year old model.

Tizliz Wed 27-Apr-16 10:31:38

Which? are recommending the new Samsung Galaxy TabPro

Don't know if you can see this without a subscription (let me know if you can't and I will scan the article)!edition/edition_w0516/article/edition_page-3282

pompa Wed 27-Apr-16 11:17:02

Tizliz, that looks promising. You do need a login to view the review, so if you could scan it, that would be great.

Looks like it has similar functionality to the MS surface pro. The only thing that would concern me is the lack of ports. Must check one out somewhere.

pompa Wed 27-Apr-16 11:17:48

BUT, if you don't like W10, this won't be for you.

Tizliz Wed 27-Apr-16 11:37:13

Can't print this article out, but I have the hard copy of the magazine at home so will do it tonight/tomorrow when I am at home. This is the basic text but can't get the picture.

Samsung’s first attempt at a top-end Windows tablet, and a fantastic one at that. The 2.2GHz processor, 128GB solid-state drive, detachable keyboard and massive 12-inch 4K resolution display go some way to justifying its eye-watering price.

What’s good about it? The Galaxy TabPro S is one of the strongest all-round tablets we’ve ever reviewed – picking out any one particular highlight is a hard task. Its performance is smooth, and loading apps and switching between them is quick and easy.

The display is stellar. While the screen may be one of the largest on the market, its 2,160x1,440-pixel resolution means it’s never pixelated or grainy. It’s also very bright and can be comfortably viewed from a range of angles.

The Galaxy TabPro S comes with a detachable keyboard and trackpad. It makes using such a sizeable device a lot easier and, given that it runs Windows 10, the experience is not too dissimilar to what you’d get on a laptop.

Anything to watch out for?
The large display and such powerful components take their toll on battery life. You’ll still get a reasonable seven-and-a-half hours if you’re watching video, or four-and-a-half if you’re browsing online, which is below average. It also loses some usability when you disconnect the keyboard.

pompa Wed 27-Apr-16 12:08:09

ouch, just looked at the price -- £850 ish, too rich for me.

Anniebach Wed 27-Apr-16 12:56:31

That does look interesting , thank you Tizliz.

pompa, I think an idiots guide to Windows 10 is just what I need , will look on Amazon now , thank you

pompa Wed 27-Apr-16 13:00:46

I bought "Windows 10 For Dummies", helped get me started.

Anniebach Wed 27-Apr-16 13:31:53

Thank you pompa, will order a copy today

Tizliz Wed 27-Apr-16 13:48:34

pompa can I pick your brains? I have had to reload Wins 10 but I still don't have a proper start menu - where you left click on the windows sign in the bottom left corner. I have to right click and get less options. I can't add icons to the bottom bar and I can't get the calendar. no search option. I have read several reasons but am not confident. Does your Windows 10 For Dummies cover this? If so I will buy a copy.

pompa Wed 27-Apr-16 18:07:08

To pin a programme to the task bar.

Left click the windows icon or press the windows key.
Open the Apps tab
Find the app you want, right click on it, select "more", click on "Pin to Taskbar"

The "Start" menu has been replaced with a new menu which you get to by :-
Left click the windows icon or press the windows key.

This gives you both a graphical view of your app and a list by clicking "Apps"
You can drag the graphical icons around to organise them to suit yourself, delete one you never use and add others to suit yourself. I tend to either put shortcuts on the desktop or onto the taskbar.

A very useful shortcut in the windows key + tab, this will show you all running apps.

Hope this helps.

If you have problems like the above, by all means ask and I will elp if I can. OR simply search on google, most questions are on there. OR use Cortana, that's what it's good at.

Tizliz Wed 27-Apr-16 18:38:35

Can't left click the windows icon - that is the problem.

pompa Wed 27-Apr-16 19:23:31

Tizliz, this appears to be a known problem.

This web page lists various solutions, try them in order.

I am running the sfc /scannow at this very moment to see what it reports.