Obese Passenger

How can Wobblybits and others not take remarks on this particular thread personally though, when it actually is about them? And that is not even taking the poem into account.

But this issue does need addressing, Wobblybits. As I said earlier, we are as a nation, on average, way bigger than most (though as Ana pointed out, not as big as the Americans yet ). Sometimes I think that being too aware of other people's sensitivities isn't helping. The couple NanKate mentions above, for example - they already do know how to eat well, they just choose not to. And in the vast majority of cases, this isn't down to a health issue, it's down to greed. I had an aunt who ate very little and was morbidly obese - this was always put down to a glandular disorder, and certainly wasn't her fault. But this is not the norm.

The OP's poem is hideous, cruel and offensive, but it's sparked an interesting debate. Please don't take any of it personally.

Keep the toys in the pram wb and get back to the panto. We need you.

My dh (sadly passed away) was overweight when I met him and I liked the fact that he was cuddly. Over the years his weight went up and down but I did prefer him when he was bigger by which I mean carrying an extra stone.

Sadly when he had cancer he became so thin it was heart breaking.

My mother was border line anorexic and her thinness was a constant worry to me all her life.

It's not good obviously to be too overweight but on the other hand it's distressing to see people who are too thin.

I try to keep a balance. My largest was 12 stone and I'm only 5.3" and now I'm about 10 stone seven which is about right. My auntie always said it was good to be carrying a little extra weight to provide a ballast against illness.

People who are too big or too small probably have all sorts of emotional problems. My husband loved his food too much and mum had a major problem with it and ate very little.

No I'm not having a strop, I do however find some of the remarks personally offensive as they are directed at people like myself and my wife. I do not therefore wish to post on this thread.
That is not a strop simply my choice to turn to another channel.

One persons binge is another one's everyday intake. Not all obese people are binge eaters. They just routinely eat too much.

We were in a Museum cafe on Sunday morning when a large young couple came and sat at the next table. They both ate a packet of crisps and a bottle of ginger beer, then the waitress brought them two bacon butties each.

If only they could be shown how to eat well without binge eating, but I suspect they will continue down this slippery slope.

Wobbly having a strop!. This is a virtual site. In my minds eye Wobbly was an adonis, a perfectly proportioned body, like mine, I wish.

Having already gone through various alteregos, at special request, please keep off threads which upset you.

Maybe now another name change, could start with A and end with S.!

Sorry I dont do smileys, in fact some smileys on here look like grimaces and could be misconstrued.

Sorry Jane10 did'nt address my remarks to you, but to OP - new to GN and forums so must have pressed wrong button.

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Binge-eating/Pages/Introduction.aspx

This is a link to an NHS page that states that binge eating is an eating disorder. I agree that sitting next to an obese person on a plane or train is not fair , for want of a better word, and something needs to be done about it, but get very annoyed when people are so judgemental about other peoples weight , without knowing the torture that being out of control around food brings.

I didn't write that poem! The OP just put it up and never came back.

I think this so called 'poem' is one of the nastiest things I've read, and I do a lot of reading. I can sympathise with your situation in regard to lack of room on a long flight etc but I think you could have made your point without being so mean.

Anorexia or Bulimia? The commonest route to obesity is just plain eating more calories than the body needs.
This is a daft argument. We all agree the poem at the start uses unkind words. However, its not fair to encroach so much on fellow passengers paid for space as to seriously inconvenience them. Talking nicely to the fat person on the next seat (and most of your own) doesn't help at all! I know full well that people are all different and have their own problems. At that point the large person in the seat next to me is my problem!

greenfinch I agree- obesity CAN be caused by an eating disorder .

Wobbly, my post was not equating obesity with smelliness! It was meant to be either/or as someone earlier in this thread had mentioned that it was uncomfortable sitting near someone who farted a lot!

I would never dream of saying (or thinking) that overweight people smell.

Obesity is not an eating disorder!

I think many on here have been judgemental, unless you walk in the persons shoes you have no idea why or how they got large Just because one person can sort themselves out doesn't mean everyone has the same ability, strength, understanding or background and to just say everyone who s large is lazy, over eating, greedy is a huge generalisation I can totally understand that on the very few occasions that an overly large person may encroach on your space it's not easy for you but just talk to them you may even find they are 'human' and not a Mountain as that awful poem suggests

Why is it that obesity commands such negatives responses while anorexia is regarded much more sympathetically?They are both eating disorders. Perhaps it is because they don't take up so much room on the plane !!!

This thread has reached a new low, it is very hurtful to link being obese with being smelly, surely this is way outside acceptability.

I may be obese, but I object to being labeled smelly.

why do skinny people presume that obese people don't have feelings? Sometimes there are medical reasons why a person is overweight-what a cruel and hurtful ode!

Well, I suppose that could apply to an obese/smelly person as well!

If you have paid for a seat whether on a plane or coach you should be able to sit in said seat without anyone else encroaching on your space, or have to put up with bad behaviour or excessive noise.

Interesting that the tumour was the 'primary' cause, presumably the secondary was his food intake? Slow metabolism? Eat less and exercise more.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3526280/Obese-545lb-man-weight-spiraled-control-developed-tumor-vows-complete-30-running-races-year-doing-21-5K-runs-losing-80lbs-2015.html

I wonder did Derek need to travel by plane to get to his races and was he viewed with contempt by his fellow passengers?

BlueBelle you misinterpret my post. Of course I am affected by my conditions but I choose to look at the bigger picture of my health and therefore strictly control what I eat. It really is as simple as that. I choose to take control of my health and not use it against anyone else or expect anyone else to be inconvenienced by me.

Many years ago I smoked but when it became obvious it was bad for health I stopped, no help from anyone (there wasn't any then) I just made the decision that I was not going to do it any more.

When we married we had enough money but a few years later we didn't so we cut back drastically and lived very frugally for some years.

I see no difference in any of the above, it is a question of doing what is required and not expecting others to make allowances. I do realise that things like mental illness cannot be dealt with in the same way before anyone thinks I have no empathy but so many things we can deal with ourselves if we so choose.