Adult only planes

God help us from screaming babies on planes. There ought to be a law against it. And no babies aren't charged the same as an adult on a plane and even if they were I can't imagine anyone wanting to sit next to that awful row for one hour let alone four. Call me selfish if you want but it seems to me if they know ther kids don't like flying why take them in the first place?

I don't mind screaming children. I'm just relieved that they aren't my problem.

Simple really...... stop selling alcohol at airports ( that would cover drunken hen/stag parties as well)...... no kids under 3 years old to fly ( should be potty trained by then)....fat people over a certain weight pay excess baggage....sorted!

Having experienced a drunken hen party group on a 7.30am flight to Malaga we were faced with a school party for the flight home. Those kids were so well behaved, I know who I preferred.

It seems very strange to me that we are all on gransnet and therefore I assume most of us have children and great grandchildren, so why so much (almost vitriolic in some cases) anti children posts? I agree that screaming infants are upsetting for everyone , but please spare a thought for the distress and anxiety it causes parents who have no choice but have to travel with their young children , for whatever reason .The glares and muttering if other passengers make a stressful situation far worse . A kind word of understanding goes a long way !

Typo sorry - ‘of’ other passengers

I can cope with the yelling babies- a good pair of ear plugs works for me, but those children whose bad manners are endorsed by their parents ignoring them . . .
I spoke to one obnoxious child in Dutch telling it to sit down and stop trying to hit my head with its comic/ soft toy/ sweet bag.
The mother, having so far ignored the child’s behaviour was roused to remonstrate with me about ‘swearing’ at her child. Having gained her attention I asked if she would stop her child attacking me and pointed out that Dutch was not swearing! She then told the child to sit down so that ‘bloody woman’ would stop ‘bloody’ complaining! ?

I've flown with mine from 9 months old to primary school aged and never have they behaved like that.
It's the parents not the children.
If you take activities for them to do there's no reason for screaming for hours on end. I breastfed mine as babies on the way up and down to avoid popping ears and pain therefore avoiding crying.
It's not difficult. If you can't be bothered to parent your children effectively, don't have them!

Merryweather it is amazing, though, that some parents seem unaware of the fact that feeding a baby, breast, bottle or even sucking a dummy will help alleviate ear problems.

I turned round on one flight to shake my head and say 'no' nicely to the child behind me who was kicking my seat. It turned out to be an adult male, bumping my seat with his foot non-stop.

A lot of the screaming children I feel is down to the selfish adults who take them abroad on holiday. They just must get their two weeks by the pool to drink the cheap alcohol. The older inconsiderate children are all down to self centred adults who as long as they are okay don't mind what their charges are up to. I gave up flying abroad years ago flying only within the UK. Another issue for flying to holiday places is the number of drunks allowed on board especially groups. That will be the next exclusion - tee totaler flights!

We have been more annoyed by the adults who barge in and take overhead spaces with large pieces of luggage and recline seats without a thought for people behind them. If the children get up to mischief then it is the adults who are to blame. Babies crying? Well we all did it.

Oh no! I do like a glass of wine with my dinner.
They can surely see who is not fit to fly through drunkenness and also restrict the amount served on a flight?

I would definitely go for a child-free plane. Is that selfish?Maybe. I don't mind treating myself to a stress free plane trip from time to time. Would I NOT go on a plane with children? Of course not. 9 times out of 10 I would go on what is the most convenient or the least expensive. But there are times (say I was on a romantic trip with my DH or I was in an incredibly anxious or high stress situation) when I would prefer that I'm not distracted by other people's children.

Many times on GN I have heard people give the advice that you need to take care of yourself, etc., etc. I don't see this as being any different. There is no shame in thinking about your own interests and comfort from time to time.

I really don't mind children - not one little bit.

Spoilt, rude and out of control kids with selfish, ignorant parents- yes, I do mind.

If anyone has ever watched a video of someone's journey by air the annoying cough-coughing from adults drowns out any " noise " from children.
I've nursed babies on my trips to Oz in the past,. entertained children when the parents were out for the count.
I'd rather travel with a plane full of kids !

I am fortunate that I do not fly. It is a horrible experience, these days, from the time you try to book in until you board the plane. Then, unless you can afford 1st class or to a lesser extent Business, the flight is cramped and uncomfortable. A totally boring experience. I use Saga for cruising, which is for over 50s. No children and I have never encountered obnoxious drunks on board. A really relaxing way to travel. Of course, as I don't fly, I end up going round in a circle, but enjoy the trip.

Unless there is absolutely no option I would not take a child under two on a flight. I suffer extremes of ear pain when flying. I am told what to do about it. Try telling the same to a child under the age of two.

Why don't you suggest this to some airlines? Though meanwhile you'll probably find that there is less ruckus in business class

Vivian123
I should have been so lucky when H and self once took an over 50's holiday.I would not consider eleven thirty too early for over 50.s wanting to go to bed even if we were on holiday only to be awakened at half past midnight by laughter and loud goodnights along the corridors. So much for an over 50's holiday.

Gilly1952 I have always said when you buy a plane ticket you should have to provide your weight and if it’s over a certain limit you should be charged for, and given, two seats. Over a certain weight there’s an element of ‘encroachment’ over the person in the next seat that’s both uncomfortable and unpleasant.

I would definitely fly on an adult only plane and do holiday in adult only hotels. I have four grandchildren who I adore but my holiday is my time, when I recharge my batteries ready for the next 50 weeks!

I like that. "Encroachment"
My driving test man encroached over to my side of the car, and it was quite off putting.

Maybe I’m lucky never having had a problem with noisy children. Ear plugs are a help, recently I bought a pair of noise cancelling headphones, plug those into the planes audio system, you can hear very little other than your own choice of entertainment.

Well worth the cost!.

What a hell it sounds on these airplanes. I realise that being chronically ill and unable to travel for thirty years has its silver lining. No-one has mentioned people coughing and sneezing on the plane and giving you their infections. With so many issues there should really be separate planes for offensive and inoffensive passengers. Let the babies, the children, the teenagers, the parents, the drunks, the rugby players, the party goers, the fat people, the men who kick their legs, the entitled people who recline their seats, the people who complain about others (and my own bugbear, people coughing and sneezing) go together in one plane. I would gladly pay extra to go in the other plane if I was able to fly.

I forgot people who try to talk to you. Put them on the offensive plane!

Also people who sweat or smell