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Has anyone been to India? Its a country I've always wanted to visit never got round to as a younger person. Mt kids have been and said its amazing. As a (young) 67 year old, is it a place to go.....with hubby?
Never been to India but had a few trips to Sri Lanka. Worth considering as an alternative. Wildlife is beautiful (try Yala Country Park,) plenty of Buddhist temples and stupas if you're into cultural history and 5 star hotels don't cost the earth. You can see a lot of the place in a week. Kandy in the centre has much to offer and there is a Tea Plantation hotel in the highlands of Nuwara Eliya which is unlike anything you've ever seen. Favourite is the Kandalama hotel, set into the hillside with open corridors that you share with wildlife. Country has been through a bad time lately so maybe they are trying to boost the tourist industry to help recovery. Lottery win Friday night and would be off on a plane to SL on the weekend!
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^We have friends from Kerala, so if we went this is where we would go. There are many parts of India I just could not go, as I really could not enjoy a holiday surrounded with abject poverty and suffering.^
So you would go to a sanitised touristy area and pretend that all is well?
India is a fabulous country, warts and all.
what a horrible comment. Kerala is not a rich area, and the parents of a friend are not wealthy- but we would feel more comfortable being guided by local people with a great knowledge of the area, and meeting local people rather than tourists, and not staying in a 'gated' posh Hôtel complex.
Just to add we went across India by train and bus. Our first class train carriage had a guard who paced up and down every so often carrying the oldest musket I've ever seen: I couldn't decide if he was security against bandits or to keep the second class passengers out. The bus journey was fine: one saw a lot of roadside activity, life being lived on the street, the occasional elephant and camel. The bus driver often drove off the road to avoid potholes!
We were told Kerala was wealthier than many places, health facilities were good and the children are all educated. There were plenty of shiny cars on the roads but still a lot of poverty too, though not having been anywhere else could not judge.
I couldn’t go because I just could not bear seeing all the poverty. I know 20 years ago a neighbour used to go and took a suitcase full of kids T shirts to give to all the poor kids who begged on the beach so they would leave her alone.
Since then several friends have been and a couple have asked me to join them but I just can’t. One came back and was exhausted they went in a coach holiday with Saga and some days they were on the bus all day. I couldn’t bear that either. I had warned her about the poverty in certain areas and she did say she had no wish to return there.
I am sure we have all seen the disgusting state of the Ganges which is basically several miles of floating rubbish bergs. I couldn’t bear that either.
I do like to see travel programmes about India especially train travel but that’s enough for me.
We were on a coach for most of every day, which was not super comfortable either.
We didn’t need to see so many places and would have benefited from fewer places with more time to explore the area more,
silverlining48
We were on a coach for most of every day, which was not super comfortable either.
We didn’t need to see so many places and would have benefited from fewer places with more time to explore the area more,
Pretty much what my friend said silverlining48.
I have been to India (only Goa and Kerala) and Vietnam. Loved everywhere we went, But don’t think those areas has the level of poverty as other areas, I can say I never had an upset stomach but on the whole was careful.
One word of warning a few years ago my husbands cousin went to India and was very thirsty, bought a bottle of water and just wiped the top with a tissue and drank from it. She caught Weils ( think that’s how it’s spelt) disease ( they say it’s commonly caught by rats urinating on stored cans and bottles) she had multiple organ failure and is now on dialysis’ - although you could probably catch it anywhere.
If it’s your first visit the Golden Triangle is a good choice Delhi, Agra and Jaipur, the only caution is some of the sites have a lot of steps, that aside go on a guided tour and follow the guides advice. Visas for India are expensive otherwise it’s not a costly trip.
Visited Kerala some 10 years ago now in our 60's, and like pascal30, found the local area well-developed, with good facilities, yet still with an exotic feel. We also visited adjacent Tamil Nadu, and that was most definitely a culture shock, with crushing poverty, and with beggars everywhere, poor souls. Many people in our tour group also came down with tummy troubles, so be prepared. We've no wish to return, and frankly, if we were still up to travelling that far, we'd much rather return to Singapore, where you can experience Chinese, India and Malay culture all on one fabulous island. More expensive than India, certainly, but well worth it. Another consideration about India is that it's not straightforward to visit. Check out the HMG site for advice. www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/india
We've been to India several times, travelling both independently and in a small tour group. It's hard to get your head round the sheer number of people but there are so many wonderful places to visit. Personally I would NOT recommend Riviera Travel - went to Vietnam with them and the tour group was far too big for us. Every stop took forever and you never got to see anything off the beaten track. Wild Frontiers have much smaller groups and go more off piste. It's down to horses for courses but never think you're too old to visit.
I spent a year in West Bengal as a VSO in the late 1960s. I travelled around with other volunteers usually in the cheapest way possible and went to most parts including Kashmir and Nepal.
I think I left part of my heart there and wanted my DH to go back with me to meet up with some of the friends I kept in touch with and visit parts I had particularly loved. He was reluctant but eventually agreed.
We used Transindus who were wonderful in adding on places I wanted to return to on one of their planned itineraries. We travelled as a couple but we also used them for a second trip to Kerala and Sri Lanka…again everything planned very carefully and excellent guides. We’ve also used Saga for a trip to Bhutan and the Himalayas and again,a very well organised trip including visits to local families and schools. We were part of a group of only 12 all of whom were wonderful travelling companions.
But I still think for the real India, and not yet part of the normal tourist trail,you can’t beat Calcutta…now Kolkata….fascinating history of British imperialism, wonderful Bengali food especially their Indian sweets, and cultured people. Of course there is upsetting poverty and filth as you find anywhere in India but the vibrancy of this part of India is wonderful. As for the Oberoi Grand hotel,do stay there if you can. We last stayed there nearly 8 years ago so I do hope it hasn’t changed.
Happy travelling.
We went to the golden triangle, 4 years ago. For me it was totally overwhelming. Despite the excellent hotels and tour company organisation there was still the mad traffic, the incessant noise, heat, filth and far too many people, none of whom have any understanding of personal space. But I don’t like crowds even in this country so I was setting myself up for a hard time by choosing to go to India. It ranks up there with Egypt as one of the two places I never want to see again. In retrospect we probably simply chose the wrong area to visit. Ranthambore, Shimla or Kerala might have been better, less frenetic choices. I also agree with others who warn against tours with long days on coaches. That is uncomfortable, exhausting, distances are vast, and it not a good use of precious holiday time. If I was doing it again I would opt for something more personalised and concentrate on just one or two centres with some days free to relax or do as you please.
I had a wonderful holiday in India with an extra trip to Nepal, which I loved. The Taj Mahal was shrouded in smoke from pyres on the river bank. The Golden Temple in Amritsar was an amazing experience. Our guide was an Indian who was full of amazing stories. The only advice I would give is to have some way of fastening your glasses to stop monkeys stealing them.
I love programmes on India and would love to see it, but know I wouldn’t enjoy all that coach travel, having not long in a place, but especially not the crowds but most of all the poverty.
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